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Get an iver Johnson if you can find one they back bored iver Johnson barrels making them the tightest shooting 410 smoothbore available.. I learned that a long time ago.. it will easily kill a turkey at 40 yards if it hasen't been messed with. Please stop the BS: It may with titanium shot. Anything else and Turkeys and .410’s @ 40 is a recipe for more wounding than killing. Not in the hands of a skilled hunter..
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Oh yea, a skilled hunter can overcome the crap pattern of the .410 at 40. More BS. I guess the guys in the video who make shells are wrong also.
The Turkey deserves better, please keep the BS to a minimum....
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Those targets looked like dead birds.
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Those targets looked like dead birds. Tungsten does make a difference. The lead targets looked like cripples. Tungsten 7 and 9’s penetrate like lead 4 and 5’s and there are many more of them. I used them this year in a 28gauge. More than a little impressive.
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How can you get so worked up over what anyone uses to kill a stupid turkey.. you have a serious problem... also you are funny. what else can I say to ruffle your feathers. haha
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Wrong again, I’m far from worked up.
The BS you are making up, is nothing more than pure BS. Turkeys consistently and cleanly at 40 yards with lead and a .410. Pure BS..
So you think Turkey’s are stupid and don’t deserve to be killed cleanly? You have the problem, not me.
Ha,ha? So juvenile, but not surprising.
You want to use the juvenile ha,ha. Will you are cappin. Look it up.
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Checkout the Savage 301 .410. They accept invector chokes and can be had in adult and youth stock lengths. Under $175 new
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Wrong again, I’m far from worked up.
The BS you are making up, is nothing more than pure BS. Turkeys consistently and cleanly at 40 yards with lead and a .410. Pure BS..
So you think Turkey’s are stupid and don’t deserve to be killed cleanly? You have the problem, not me.
Ha,ha? So juvenile, but not surprising.
You want to use the juvenile ha,ha. Will you are cappin. Look it up. Where did I say lead.. you are putting in things I did not say...Just like a democrat HAHA
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Too late....
The old fire Democrat insinuation. Have you nothing better?
Carry on, BS is BS and you are a prize BS’er
By now, but I’ll be sure and tune in, if only to read the....
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Too funny....thread about a shotgun for an 11 year old girl and grown men act like 5 year old little bitches.
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Even worse if you are BSing someone asking advice for a young 11year old...
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16bore.... did you ever look into that russian made Remington single shot?
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I liked the idea of the Remington because its easy to (squeeze) open, it ejects the hull, and there is no external hammer. it cocks on opening. super easy concept for kids.
ive been down your road.....I teach kids and finding guns that work is key.
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16bore, If you can track down a Savage 220(a, b, c or d models) in 410, they are a terrific hammerless option. Light to carry and beautiful in a simple way...walnut & case hardened receivers. I’ve got two 410’s for each of my boys when they get a few years older. A first gun I hope they’ll be proud to hang onto for their kids someday.
In the meantime I’m hammering red squirrels around the house with them and putting a hurt on foxes and grays with my 28ga model.
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16bore, If you can track down a Savage 220(a, b, c or d models) in 410, they are a terrific hammerless option. Light to carry and beautiful in a simple way...walnut & case hardened receivers. I’ve got two 410’s for each of my boys when they get a few years older. A first gun I hope they’ll be proud to hang onto for their kids someday.
In the meantime I’m hammering red squirrels around the house with them and putting a hurt on foxes and grays with my 28ga model.
I've had a Savage Model 220, in 410 for years. It was my grandfather's. I've been looking for another one in 20 or 16 gauge, but have never come across another one, anywhere in the Upper Midwest. Wonderful single shot shotguns, and very well made to boot.
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16bore, If you can track down a Savage 220(a, b, c or d models) in 410, they are a terrific hammerless option. Light to carry and beautiful in a simple way...walnut & case hardened receivers. I’ve got two 410’s for each of my boys when they get a few years older. A first gun I hope they’ll be proud to hang onto for their kids someday.
In the meantime I’m hammering red squirrels around the house with them and putting a hurt on foxes and grays with my 28ga model.
I've had a Savage Model 220, in 410 for years. It was my grandfather's. I've been looking for another one in 20 or 16 gauge, but have never come across another one, anywhere in the Upper Midwest. Wonderful single shot shotguns, and very well made to boot. I had a complete basket case 12ga from my uncle that was unshootable but the lack of a hammer intrigued me. This was around 1998 and before pre-internet sales so me wanting one in 20ga was just wishful thinking. During college, I was working the gun counter at Gander Mt in Saginaw and a guy came in one night wanting to sell us a gun. He pulled out a mint 20 220A From the case and we have him $42 for it. Couldn’t believe he sold it to us. I put it in the back with my name on it and $60 later it was mine. Since about 2014, I’ve picked up two 410’s, a 12, 16, and finally a 28. All 220A’s and all in like new condition. Weird little gun to put that kind of time into, but I’m with you that they are great guns. Keep an eye out...they’re out there!
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I got each of my kids H&R/NEF .410s when they were 11 and 12, just to get them used to the noise and recoil. I made sure they understood that when they wanted to do some real wing-shooting or clay pigeon games they'd likely need something bigger. When they got into high school and became involved in FFA trap competition, they had no problem adjusting to using my 12s.
Just for what it's worth, I was surprised to find it much easier than I'd expected to hit hand-trap thrown clays with a .410. The kids could hit as many as I could. Their .410s did account for a certain number of pests around the farm, though.
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That’s what I ended up getting.
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This is what you need to find.. https://www.gunsamerica.com/914267476/New-England-410-Single-Shot.htmIts heavy enough that it has little kick. The LOP is fine for my 8 year old. The downfall is that for anything over 25 yards, I'd buy the high dollar ammo. I've never minded spending that cause its a single shot and its for youth hunting (not high volume shooting). I've got a weatherby youth 20 ga SA and a escort youth 20 ga SA in the safe. Both are well liked and used by the "older youth" (13-16 year olds) but that break action NE 410 is the best starter in my experience.
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Checkout the Savage 301 .410. They accept invector chokes and can be had in adult and youth stock lengths. Under $175 new
I bought the 301 in .410 to squirrel hunt on properties that don't allow rimfire rifle. The 301 is light as a feather and patterns pretty well with the $10 Federal ammo from Walmart. My only complaint is the pattern is 3-4 inches low at 25 yards. I will probably put a smaller bead on it before next season to bring up the pattern.
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