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That's what I was thinking. Kinda like 338 Marlin vs 338 Lapua. Answer=338WM.

I left the "tree-hundred" at home......

Yep II

IF a 308 = 300 W M.....THEN 30-30 = 308 = 300 WM = = SARCASM


Jerry

If I may add something personally significant. I appreciate your considering me a MF-er and not a sport. Your recognition of desirable human characteristics is noted.

Now if the difference is 200+/- a little on Elk, where would one be prudent to choose one over the other on say Antelope. Do the ballistic tables take into consideration the fragility factor of different species. Fragility factor, surely it is pertinent in the killing of Game and should it be incorporated into ballistic data?

Have killed one Elk and one Antelope, both with a 300WM Mag and both at approximately the same distance. The Antelope seemed much more impressed with the initial thump, and significantly so in that it almost tore the front third lose.

Much younger at the time, however now I think I could have pulled both off with a .300Savage. Therefore from no actual personal experience I think the .300 Savage an ideal Elk cartridge.

Addition: for the more serious among us.

[quote=scenarshooter]

I left the "tree-hundred" at home......
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Now Don't Do That !


Altho I have an irrational affinity for the 300 WM >>> I don't think/feel it is the MINIMUM elk cartridge.

It DOES shoot flatter, making hitting long shots EASIER.
It's easy to hit, kill WT at 400 yds so Elk would be in trouble.


Jerry

It went back thru ALL the thread and couldn't find the post/reference to 76 FT. Maybe a post lost during ERROR.

I don't know WHAT distance, WHAT B Cs were used, etc.
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Jerry

This right here is highly debatable. Not that I'm going to debate it with you, but if you have a scope that dials accurately and a laser rangefinder, "flat shooting" is not something that's much of a factor any more.

Any like Scenarshooter alluded to earlier, less recoil = more accurate shooting for most people. So "easier" is debatable.

[quote=Mule Deer]

I am starting to doubt your range of personal experience, as well as ability to learn from hunters who have more experience than you--which is one measure of the ability to learn.

As Will Rogers noted: “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves."
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Man OH Man, I wish I'd had that reference in the past on occasion. A few Xs I've been SCORCHED because I have not
killed X or Y and so I wasn't qualified to expound.


One response I had was something like this;
"The guy who knows ONLY what he has experienced is an ignoramus < EDIT correct word.

The majority of what WE know WE have learned from OTHERS.

Who told You what YOUR name is ? (rhetorical)


If I was going to change my SIG line, it would be THAT quote. Thanks

Jerry

NOR am I going to debate it with you.

Jerry

Dudes. You both left out the ballistics tables. Please cut and paste some, and then explain what they mean. That's the only way to really know.

Your logic is flawless, as usual.

Might mention here that a local guy I am acquainted with, a little younger than I am, sort of semi-geezerish, has been using the same Remington 722 .300 Savage as his big game rifle since he was in high school. The quarry includes everything from antelope to plenty of elk. He handloads, but only because factory ammo is hard to find, not get another 100 fps or use a magic bullet.

Believe he would be puzzled by this thread, but he ain't a Campfire kind of guy.

I’m beginning to wonder if I am. 😀

this post answer for the win ! GRIN

Will ignored the original thinkers....


“There can be no progress, if there is no original thinking. And there can be no original thinking, if you stick strictly to the known.”
― Abhijit Naskar, Lives to Serve Before I Sleep

Stand a little closer, Peter. I don't want to pee on your boots, I want to pee into 'em.

Its "venerable" why do we need ballistics? <G>

Thank you.

Also I should add,
Is this versus/vs. or verses question ?
I haven’t seen one verse yet!

It's actually chapter and verse.