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Please fill me in. Why the lack of respect for the Work of Paul?

The time span of the four Gospels was technically still under the Old Covenant, although in the New Testament. That's why Jesus told those healed, go show yourself to the priest.

Only after the Holy Spirit descended did the Church Age begin.

During the Lord's time here on the Earth, it says they knew him after the flesh. After they were endowed with the Holy Sprit, they had Spiritual discernment, understood what they had experienced and were subsequently empowered to write the Gospels.

DF

When did the "Holy Spirit descend?" I mean the date.

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When did the "Holy Spirit descend?" I mean the date.

7 weeks after the start of Passover - at the Jewish Pentecost celebration. That year it was a few weeks after Jesus' resurrection. The disciples were gathered for the feast when the Spirit came on them. The Christian Pentecost is now celebrated 40 days after Easter to celebrate that. The dates aren't exact but close enough.
Since nobody knows what year that happened, figuring the exact date is impossible.

Many are called, few are chosen. No one is forcing you to do anything, to listen or believe. You sound like you have some knowledge of scripture and have rejected it. If that is accurate, there is nothing that anyone can say that is more powerful or as convincing. Maybe you are not among the chosen.

Paul had a lot to say about a women's role in the church (basically no prominent role) and role in the household (subservient to the man).

A modern woman would rip his throat out - just saying!

Sniper we have become good friends here, I respect your stance on matters.

And there is a difference in respecting Paul's works and believing his writings are Christ's literal word/scripture, I imagine Paul himself would be most surprised 300 years later they would be considered so. Paul had decent insight, represented Christ as best he could, inspired many and wasn't perfect. That's it.

Kent

Please fill me in. Why the lack of respect for the Work of Paul?

I suspect that a good number of people reject Paul’s writings because he cuts to the deep quickly. The first three chapters of Romans leave no doubt that we are all sinners. Religious, non religious, gay, straight, man, woman, Jew, non Jew, everyone is a sinner.

In general we don’t like to think of ourselves as sinners. We like to view ourselves as OK. Like Crocodile Dundee said, “God and me, we be mates” (it’s the other guy that’s the sinner).

Paul had a lot to say about a women's role in the church (basically no prominent role) and role in the household (subservient to the man).

A modern woman would rip his throat out - just saying!

Christ said do not judge, he had a reason for saying this, he wasn't talking about if someone stole something or murdered or adultered... worldly things... he was talking about another's salvation, that is God's prerogative for each individual.

I don't get how 'christians' can't see how disgusting it is, how derisive and unappealing, claiming the right of God's judgement.

I may call someone every name in the book but will never assume to speak of their salvation.

The reason I even started posting and not lurking on this site was because Blaine in a fit of anger said steelhead's murdered sister was in hell... it honestly is a terrible representation of Christ.

I am a true believer of Christ and the Holy Spirit and wish to be an alternate voice for Christ outside of the bigotry and spitefulness of religion to those who are appalled at some of the followers.

Kent

I'm sure Paul was genuine in his belief, Billy Graham was, Joseph Smith was, many others, I include myself. I doubt Paul had any idea his words 300 years later would be considered Christ's literal word. He was moved by the Holy Spirit, many of us are, he had insights, we do also if we submit to the HS, he was a man and got things wrong, as we all do. His words are not scripture, that's the bottom line.

Kent