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FIRST - Brad, I am NOT arguing about it w/you. really.




In the OP ^^ I said what do YOU think. That's FINE, it's what you think.

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I said 'Cartridge' not caliber. NO PROBLEM

MY opinion includes the World Wide exposure the 30-06 had in the W W s, and Korea.

NO other round, even 308, has represented AMERICA like the 06.

WE are allowed to have different OPINIONS. All is GOOD.


Jerry

45-70?

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We desperately need a "like" button.

I agree wholeheartedly and I did, 11 years ago Oct.13th. Maybe that's my problem?

Jerry –

Realized I had unintentionally omitted the .45 Colt, so I went back and added it.

Not saying anything about men that use the .270 Win, but I bought one for Daughter #1.

My first centerfire was a 7mm RM and it will be one of the last to go. The .458 WM is another good one but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a hunter carrying one.

The list was getting a little long so none of them made it. The .257 Roberts, .270 Win and 7mm RM would probably be next up (not necessarily in that order) if I decided to add to the list.

If you asked this question around the end of the 19th century the answer would have been 45 Colt. There were two guns made specifically for the caliber so that you wouldn't have to buy any other ammo in a different caliber.

I read this and laughed at myself - I've had a Ruger Blackhawk with both cylinders since the mid to late 1990's and have never even put the 45 ACP cylinder in it - I guess I ought to fix that!

Most American? 30wcf. (30/30)

with respect to our World War 2,Korean war,Viet Nam American Soldiers- 30-06 / 45 ACP ,308 WIN.,.223Rem.,12 gauge ,50 BMG

and now our American Soldiers are sent to those dang sand countries > 223/556,308 Win.,300 Win.Mag,50 bmg, 45 ACP

my vote would be >45ACP the most American Cartridge <

If anyone has an 1873 Colt or Winchester they want to part with let me know.

I would have to say 45 ACP and 30/06, as much as I admire the 45 Colt and 45/70.

If there's any doubt, just keep the same shellholder in the press and load both.. .

The original Henry and Winchester levers weren't chambered in .45 colt (came later)... so to a large extent the one cartridge on your belt for two guns is a myth (as was the quick draw holster itself in the late 19th century).

Once the army adopted it, you were just as likely to find 45SW (for a Schofield #3) tucked into a belt as an 1873 Colt SA.

A myth except for the 44-40, 38-40 and 32-20.



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Yes and no. I don't think those were being referenced, just the 45 colt. Anyhow, the 32-20 wasn't around in 60, 66, or 73. It's really the 44-40 that did a lot of the work and then 45LC swooped in and stole all of the glory.

Edit (added): 44-40 beginning in 73. Prior, 44 Henry. But I think it was much more common to have a cap/ball gun converted to 44-40 or 44 colt than 38-40 in the mid to late 1870s.

.44 Cap and ball conversions were mostly .44 Henry and .44 Colt.

Yea edited to add 44 colt right after the original post. My understanding is that once you got a couple models of Winchesters using centerfire cartridges, conversion to Henry rimfire tailed off significantly.

Overall, the prevalence of shootists relying on pistols -- or at least the ones we imagine -- is somewhat overblown. Most towns had anti-carry ordinances, so bull dogs. belly guns, etc, were more common. Cowhands often weren't allowed to wear guns on the trail (stampede risk). Metallic cartridges were expensive; no one practiced; most weren't great shots (exceptions: Hardin, Hickok, etc.) and preferred long guns if possible.

The .30-30 Winchester is the most American cartridge and most commonly chambered in the most American rifle, the lever action.

I would say .30-06 would get my vote.
It's 114 years old, fought and helped win wars on several continents and can be easily/cheaply purchased all over North America.

It might not be the sexiest but it checks a lot of boxes

Yeah puah, the 06's little sister.

I rate the 06 higher because it's NEARLY twice its age.


Jerry