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You’ll never achieve potential of 6.5 RM in that set up. Action is too short, barrel twist is all wrong and barrel length is too short. But it will kill deer. For all the reasons I stated above is why it never caught on. Remington would be high on the blame list for its unsuccessful life span. The 6.5 Rem Mag would achieve significant potential if housed in any WSM action length. BTW the 6.5 CM was never designed or intended to produce 264 Win Mag performance, however it’s barrel life is about 3-4 times longer and its accuracy is renowned.

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Originally Posted by WStrayer
I find the 6. Creedmore to be a reinvention of what already exists.



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I get so tired of all the droning on over the 6.5 Creedmoor. It doesn't do anything the old 6.5X55 has done for a century.


Except it does it with optimized and standardized pressure, chamber, throat and brass dimensions which make it an "easy button" solution for precision with off the rack rifles and this is particularly true for those who don't handload.

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I recently went to two different local gunstores...

Gunstore #1

3 SKU's of 260 Rem
27 SKU's of 6.5 CM

Gunstore # 2

0 SKU's 260 Rem
22 SKU's 6.5 CM


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Originally Posted by Kenneth
If this was recently discussed in a thread here, feel free to paste a link,

Anyhow, Title says it all, which one you grabbing and why?

Same gun, just different cartridge, Your choice.

Hunting and Range, more range than hunting, and limited to 300 yard range distance.

7.5 lb sporter rifle, 22 inch barrel.

Beat that horse...............


There are far more factory rifle options for the 6.5CM. Why limit yourself to what is available with a .260 Rem chamber as well?

There is about 3x the factory ammo choices for the 6.5CM compared to the .260 Rem and it starts at about half the price.

Under 300 yards the somewhat faster .260 Rem offers very little if any advantage. In fact, with the tighter ammo and chamber specs for the 6.5 CM, it will probably be easier to find an accurate combo of rifle and ammo with the 6.5 CM.

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Originally Posted by Walter_Sobchak

Seems like you want to be talked out of .260, if so go with what you want.


No idea what lead you to that erroneous assumption,

It's rather I'm trying to talk myself 'into' a 260, But their not available.............................

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260, had one for 20 years.

Dont think I would do a 6.5 now if I didnt have the 260. I have never been a mainstream kinda guy.

Thats why I rolled with the 260 in the first place way back when.

Hell, I just had a 264 WM built. I do avoid the mainstream.....


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Originally Posted by DollarShort
Since you're looking exclusively at a long action, and seem pretty set on reloading, might as well get a Swede.


You're killing me................

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Gee, Guilty here of not reading "everything in the thread".

A long action might be the choice????????????

Why stifle a long action with a short action cartridge??? It can take you where no short action can go.

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Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by Walter_Sobchak

Seems like you want to be talked out of .260, if so go with what you want.


No idea what lead you to that erroneous assumption,

It's rather I'm trying to talk myself 'into' a 260, But their not available.............................


Probably because no one buys .260s anymore. You’re making this more difficult than it needs to be

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Originally Posted by Walter_Sobchak
You’re making this more difficult than it needs to be


No doubt.

It's the middle of winter in Wisconsin,

Pick new guns out or go Ice fishing......

My choice should be obvious.

And thanks for your participation in my group therapy.

And don't forget, there is at least, a 50 fps diff between the two,

It's the little things that kill.

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.264WM for the win at extended ranges.

6.5PRC for the future.

6.5CM for availability and 300 yards.


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This is always an interesting discussion. As things have actually progressed in the past decade, it's very difficult to argue against the 6.5 Creedmoor. Most of the reasons have already been articulated herein. I've owned at least one 260 since they were introduced. It was simply an excellent round in and of itself. I've owned at least one, usually more than one, 6.5 Creedmoor since it was introduced. We in the shooting and, more specifically, the hunting world, benefit greatly from developments that occur because of the competitive shooting world. Because of that world, even hunters have jumped on the longer bullet, higher ballistic coefficient, etc. bandwagons. Heck, in reading the threads on most boards like this you will find it alluded to, if not asserted, that if you aren't shooting heavy for caliber bullets, with fast twist barrels at ranges of 1000 yards, then you are a relic or a moron.

A huge benefit to the hunting community with the development of the 6.5 Creedmoor is a very accurate, inexpensive to shoot, easy to handle rifle with easily obtainable and relatively inexpensive, high quality factory ammo. This was never going to occur with the lethargic marketing of the 260. An interesting side note is that if you remove the short bolt stop in a Tikka T3/T3X 260 and replace it with a long bolt stop and use the long action magazines AND reload. You can utilize the longer 6.5 bullets to an extent where you are not intruding into the available powder space and then, and only then, can you make the 260 Remington superior to the 6.5 Creedmoor, ballistically speaking only of course.

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Creed - growing popularity, more ammo choices. Rem is fading away.

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For the hand loader that prefers bullets up to 130 grains, there is virtually no difference and the brass for the .260 is easily formed from .308. For a non-loader, or someone who prefers the long bullets, the Creed wins, as it handles the long bullets real well in the short actions, and there is gobs of ammo available. I hand load, so I have two of each and like them all, but I would not even look at a .260 now, if I was shooting only factory fodder.


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Never owned or shot either. I used to have a 6.5 x55 Swede and liked it, but thinned the herd 20 years ago and sold it. Going by reading about both the 260 Rem and 6.5 CM, performance seems close enough (both very good).

I like the case design (sharper shoulder) and touch longer neck of the 6.5 CM.

Biggest "plus" for 6.5 CM is ammo availability. I live in a small town in Maine. The nearest Wal-Mart has 6.5 CM, but no 260 Rem. Both very good cartridges, but 6.5 CM ammo availability tilts the scale clearly into its favor. IF I was inclined to buy one of the other (and I.am.not so inclined) it would be the 6.5 CM. No need or desire for either. Given all that, I'll take my 30-06.and 270 Win over either the 260 Rem or 6.5 CM.

I can't believe there is 6 pages on this , and likely more to come. We all must be cabin-bound and bored. I am guilty of beating a dead horse.



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Buttstock, where in the great state of Maine do you live?


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Originally Posted by Brad
Buttstock, where in the great state of Maine do you live?


Clinton, ME: "The dairy capital of Maine.". Factoid: there are more cows in Clinton, ME than people- and I like it that way.

https://www.clinton-me.us

The closest Wal-Mart is in Waterville.


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