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my thoughts are that teachers, for the most part, are an integral part of the problem with America today. By and large, teachers are liberal, they are products of liberal teacher colleges, and are in perfect sync with the socialists that run the teacher unions, and boards of education.


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Corporal punishment needed to go. Too many "educators" enjoyed it too much.


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The stepdaughter learned that using a ruler on the globe in class shows if we were closer to the equator or the north pole..

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Originally Posted by WeimsnKs
Schools went downhill when corporal punishment went out of favor.
Police have to be called when little Johnny won’t get out out of his seat because the teacher can’t snatch him up and bust his ass. Kids don’t understand their place anymore.

Excellent post. Parents don’t bother teaching kids to respect anybody, and teachers no long have the power to teach respect. Threats of law enforcement are the only tool they have, and a criminal mind has no fear or respect of police.
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Originally Posted by WeimsnKs
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Crockettnj
Originally Posted by 7mmbuster
Hawkeye’s thread about the map got me thinking.
Most of us, self included, blame teachers for the sorry shape of our recent graduates.



Teachers are a symptom, not the cause.

Parenting first and foremost. 100%. Period.

A lousy teacher maintins their job because parents dont hold administration responsible.

Parents run school districts. The district becomes what the parents int eh community wnat, and one or two squeeky wheels goes a long way.

Ultimately, parenting and parental apathy is the root cause of any of our societal problems.


Unions RUN school districts.


You are ignorant and should keep quiet about what you don’t know.

Look in the mirror if you want to know what is wrong with schools. Schooling starts at home.

Schools went downhill when corporal punishment went out of favor.
Police have to be called when little Johnny won’t get out out of his seat because the teacher can’t snatch him up and bust his ass. Kids don’t understand their place anymore.

Unions run the school districts.

Unions fund school board members election campaigns.

Unions have their controlling thumb on these school board members.

Unions run the school districts and it;s members.

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Someone make a note to PM me about this thread in 6 weeks or so.

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Wife taught for 38 years, said the glaring problem was inept administration not backing the teachers. My mother was superintendent certified by the state of Texas back in the days when it meant something. Now all it takes is some bozo/bozo-ette with PHD from Texas Southern behind their name to qualify.

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I was in a small district, we had good teachers, good coaches. I made all A’s because if I didn’t I wasn’t allowed to play football. When my kids were growing up, I sat at the table with them, made sure they were getting their work done. I liked that time with them.

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Originally Posted by 7mmbuster
Originally Posted by WeimsnKs
Schools went downhill when corporal punishment went out of favor.
Police have to be called when little Johnny won’t get out out of his seat because the teacher can’t snatch him up and bust his ass. Kids don’t understand their place anymore.

Excellent post. Parents don’t bother teaching kids to respect anybody, and teachers no long have the power to teach respect. Threats of law enforcement are the only tool they have, and a criminal mind has no fear or respect of police.
Hammer, meet nail!
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Kid in 7th and 11th grade. The stuff I hear, school is nothing like I
remember.

Except, bullying.
Despite enormous time and money spent on anti bullying programs,
human nature hasn't changed. Imagine that.
What has changed is the good kids are afraid to fight back.
Fearful of administrative repercussions.


To the OP,
I mostly detested teachers and their condescending ways.
However, their were several who I truly respected.

Larry Garlock, high school English.
A huge intimidating sized man.
Quiet, always kind and respectful to his students. (Another topic)
Vietnam vet, I learned of his service outside of school
he never talked about it


John Topper,
Coached for years, (IDGAS)
High School history.
Rodeo Rider,
Country/Western/Gospel singer
Inspirational speaker.

Mr Topper was a quiet teacher that loved his subject
and made it come alive. It unfolded as a story, and you wanted
to learn more. Tough and demanding on assignments, but it
was presented in a way that you wanted to do it.
Also, command presence to the max.
He never blistered, never threatened or raised his voice.
Most, didn't want to upset him,
the rest.
just knew better.

7mm,
I bet you are aware of Topper just from his performances
or church visits.






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Our school system uses a head-hunter search when it’s time for a new director. 39 schools in this county, almost 4000 teachers, 33,000 kids. We burn through a new director about every 3 years.

Pay them more than the county mayor.

And they won’t promote from within. They haul in some liberal with miss America type answers for every question.

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I live between two schools in the city I was raised in but went to parochial school , sister went to public school and it showed. The demographics here have changed significantly the last few years and even with hefty school referendums test scores in public schools have gone down.

Here's a couple things I have noticed recently,

A large number of teachers driving new Mercedes Benz and almost none driving domestic vehicles.

Detective with the drug dog is at the grade school everyday, not the High School.

When it's cold or snowy they get more days off in a year then we got in four.

Somebody seems to put Trump signs between the schools in the middle of the night that are taken down in daylight by teachers...


The Boys and Girls Club received a $500,000 grant to tutor black kids because their graduation rate was so low, but that's not racist.


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Originally Posted by 7mmbuster
Hawkeye’s thread about the map got me thinking.


If you think the people shown in that clip were representative of the people who stopped you are part of the problem. It is far more likely that they were acting off a script. Stop letting Jews engineer your views about your countrymen.

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Couple years ago I tried teaching. HS kids.

Taught welding for a JuCo as dual enrollment.

It’s about money.

They gotta have butts in the seats. $$.

Kids i taught were a mix of rural country kids and city kids. You won’t have to guess many times where ethnic the city kids were.

I could call the school resource office to come get them. They would never get kicked out of the class. Gotta have enrollment. $$.

Something like that is a strain on a teacher. Trying to help/ teach the ones genuinely interested and babysitting the others.

Bless the good teachers. The rest are waiting on a fugging retirement.


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Some very good points made here, and I’m seeing a connection, mainly because we’re all near the same age.
If you grew up when we did, you were taught to respect other people. Maybe your parents, maybe teachers, maybe a neighbor. Christ, I think everyone in my school at one time or another had an issue with being bullied or something. But we were taught respect for ourselves and others, and if someone didn’t show you some respect, there was alway a meeting after class and away from teachers.
“I’ll see you after class behind the building” grin One way or another, you learned to respect one another, and you learned the fact that you need to look out for yourself. The teacher wasn’t always there, there were no cameras, and law enforcement was something altogether different from school grounds.
Now we have a couple generations of snowflakes who are afraid of every shadow, and they rely on someone from the government or the police department to protect them.
Maybe the reason we’re not afraid of Russian interference or global warming is because a parent or a teacher or somebody down the road taught us to think about things, question authority, and above all, look out for yourself and others.
I hope to hell “Bighunter” is following this thread and a couple others here.
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Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by 7mmbuster
Hawkeye’s thread about the map got me thinking.


If you think the people shown in that clip were representative of the people who stopped you are part of the problem. It is far more likely that they were acting off a script. Stop letting Jews engineer your views about your countrymen.

My original post on that thread was wondering how many people they interviewed to find the idiots! It was also one of the reasons I was trying to create a positive thread about teachers in the first place here! We see how that went! grin
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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by WeimsnKs
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Crockettnj
Originally Posted by 7mmbuster
Hawkeye’s thread about the map got me thinking.
Most of us, self included, blame teachers for the sorry shape of our recent graduates.



Teachers are a symptom, not the cause.

Parenting first and foremost. 100%. Period.

A lousy teacher maintins their job because parents dont hold administration responsible.

Parents run school districts. The district becomes what the parents int eh community wnat, and one or two squeeky wheels goes a long way.

Ultimately, parenting and parental apathy is the root cause of any of our societal problems.


Unions RUN school districts.


You are ignorant and should keep quiet about what you don’t know.

Look in the mirror if you want to know what is wrong with schools. Schooling starts at home.

Schools went downhill when corporal punishment went out of favor.
Police have to be called when little Johnny won’t get out out of his seat because the teacher can’t snatch him up and bust his ass. Kids don’t understand their place anymore.

Unions run the school districts.

Unions fund school board members election campaigns.

Unions have their controlling thumb on these school board members.

Unions run the school districts and it;s members.


Are you a teacher ?
Have you ever been on a school board ?

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Originally Posted by slumlord
Our school system uses a head-hunter search when it’s time for a new director. 39 schools in this county, almost 4000 teachers, 33,000 kids. We burn through a new director about every 3 years.

Pay them more than the county mayor.

And they won’t promote from within. They haul in some liberal with miss America type answers for every question.




I like one thing about your system,
the structure of administration.

We used to have a county superintendent.
No more.

We have 5 independent districts,
each with a superintendent.
Most have a PhD (required?) And get over $100k/year.
Several have assistant superintendents, also PhDs.

In a rural county of under 50k.
With 36% to 57% poverty rates depending on district.
Ours do not leave!
Who would?


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A lot of teachers are liberal wack jobs. But a lot of parents are lazy and expect schools to raise their kids. When my wife was a kindergarten teacher it wasn’t unusual for half the kids to show up not being able to count to 10 or say the alphabet. When she taught the higher grades she had several parents whose kids were failing due to never turning in homework give her some variation of “I’m not doing homework with jr as I sent him to school for you to teach him

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Originally Posted by steve4102
Those day are long gone.

Today's Union teachers are protected from dismissal for all sorts of reasons one being poor performance.

Teachers of old taught, today's teachers are activists, spreaders of propaganda and indoctrinate.

They no longer teach the basics because they don't have to. They are typical Union protected public employees.

They are more concerned with Political Correctness, Zero Tolerance and summers off then they are about actually educating.

They are one of the top three reasons why America's youth are drawn to Socialism and Communism.


I taught at University for 18 years and agree with this completely.

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I had a crew of former students who took care of corporal punishment for me when it became necessary, which was rarely. One guy in particular, who worked for a trucking company that was a money laundering outfit for organized crime was particularly effective at giving snot-nosed brats who thought they were untouchable an education in what street justice was all about.
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