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Thats interesting.

I personally dont believe gender dysphoria to be a tenable position however.

How can you separate gender and sexuality?

I have to agree. Ive never been in this situation obviously. However, I can personally tell you that puberty is an awkward time for everyone. Gay, trans, or straight they shouldnt have this manipulated in anyway a unless there is a life threatening condition. Again, I'm not in your shoes but I think I would tell the kid let's keep it between us until your an adult and positive its what you want. This might also keep him from getting bullied.
Good luck

I guarantee something happened to the boy when he first started expressing symptoms. It could have been a discrete occurrence or it could have been an ongoing situation. People don't just wig out over nothing.

Can you please stop making guarantees? You know nothing about me. That being said I’d love to have you come meet my kid. Spend a couple days in Wisconsin. I’ll pay for your flight and hotel. Then and only then can you begin to understand.

I think this is where the physiological effects override the physical effects of sexuality, its like the timeline is off and the mental timeline and the physical growth does not match .

So this kid is a hetero female trapped in a hetero male's body?

That sorta limits our options a bit.

There have been some studies that seem to give merit to embracing the homosexuality angle and go that direction instead of all these "treatments".

Maybe but it 's really mental illness.

Jim, as hetrosexual males, have you ever noticed, that we picture lesbians couples as as two stunningly beautiful, tastefully dressed, young women, yet in reality that is seldom the case, ever wonder why ?

Do you wonder why someone who is a self proclaimed lesbian, is attracted to another woman that looks and acts like a man, but clearly is not?

When you know the answers, farming will just be a hobby you enjoy doing when you are not counting your money.

Words do not suffice for those who have yet to absorb the contemporary evil festering in our culture, ruling class, and those who "go along."

For those in positions of authority (gov't, church, school, parents) who further this(1), this is a betrayal of trust and authority worthy of Dante's 9th circle of Hell: Traitors to Kindred and Traitors to Country. A mill stone is just the beginning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(Dante)#Ninth_Circle_(Treachery)

Arnoldus Amalricus had the right idea:
"Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius."

This civilization has become a house of horrors, where the most freakish realities and myths of Weimar & Nazi Germany become gov't policy and accepted by those who have become unmoored from any sort of Western morality.



(1) Or let it be done without resisting as if the child's life was at stake.

Ernest Hemingway was put in dresses by his mom, and it wasn't cause they was poor.




CEO, he means his arbitrary God is going to get you.

So I’ve got some time then in theory. Assuming I don’t get struck by lightning and die at 37 because my kid is different and I’m a supportive parent.

Although the study referenced in this article is three years old,it certainly places in question the use of such drugs as puberty blockers on children.The most important conclusion reached by these world renowned physicians is this:
The doctors found that puberty blockers create four major problems, including prolonging gender dysphoria in children who would otherwise outgrow it.


A new study shows once more that significant research is still needed in order for doctors to understand how to treat transgenderism, particularly in young patients. Unfortunately, the scientific approach to gender dysphoria has been heavily influenced by the PC movement and as such may be resorting to harmful interventions to appease social-justice warriors. According to a study published in The New Atlantis on Tuesday, children suffering from gender dysphoria should not be treated with puberty-blocking drugs because they create additional complications.

The study was authored by Dr. Paul Hruz, a professor at Washington University School of Medicine; Dr. Lawrence Mayer, professor at Arizona State University and scholar at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine; and Dr. Paul McHugh, distinguished service professor of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine.

The doctors found that puberty blockers create four major problems, including prolonging gender dysphoria in children who would otherwise outgrow it.

The authors questioned the rationale behind enabling children who lack mental and emotional maturity to make significant medical decisions for themselves, stating, “We frequently hear from neuroscientists that the adolescent brain is too immature to make reliably rational decisions, but we are supposed to expect emotionally troubled adolescents to make decisions about their gender identities and about serious medical treatments at the age of 12 or younger.”

Medical interventions that take children down the path of prolonged gender confusion are particularly troublesome given the high rates of homelessness, depression, and suicide among the transgender community. Children could avoid this fate if they were permitted to outgrow their gender dysphoria; however, the use of puberty blockers, according to the study, “may have solidified the feelings of cross-gender identification in these patients, leading them to commit more strongly to sex reassignment than they might have if they had received a different diagnosis or a different course of treatment.”

The doctors added, "The interference with normal pubertal development will influence the gender identity of the child by reducing the prospects for developing a gender identity corresponding to his or her biological sex.”

Other problems outlined in the study include the potentially damaging health effects of the puberty blockers, the inability to reverse the effects of the drugs, and the lack of science to support puberty blockers, which are experimental at best.

Hruz, Mayer, and McHugh stated:
Reading these various guidelines gives the impression that there is a well-established scientific consensus about the safety and efficacy of the use of puberty-blocking agents for children with gender dysphoria, and that parents of such children should think of it as a prudent and scientifically proven treatment option. But whether blocking puberty is the best way to treat gender dysphoria in children remains far from settled and it should be considered not a prudent option with demonstrated effectiveness but a drastic and experimental measure.

And the lack of science behind the use of puberty blockers means that there is also little evidence that they are reversible, as is often claimed. “There are virtually no published reports, even case studies, of adolescents withdrawing from puberty-suppressing drugs, and then resuming the normal pubertal development typical for their sex," explains the article. The authors add that what is completely irreversible in fact is the disruption the puberty-blocking drugs cause in the normal developmental process.

“In developmental biology, it makes little sense to describe anything as ‘reversible,'" Hruz, Mayer, and McHugh observed.

The findings of this study are consistent with another study in The New Atlantis co-authored by McHugh and Mayer last year, in which they concluded that there is no evidence for the therapeutic value of either interventions that delay puberty or encouraging children in their cross-gender identification. “Children are a special case when addressing transgender issues," the report stated, adding, "Only a minority of children who experience cross-gender identification will continue to do so into adolescence or adulthood."

In fact, the authors argued that enabling acceptance of transgenderism through medical intervention is particularly harmful: “An area of particular concern involves medical interventions for gender-nonconforming youth. They are increasingly receiving therapies that affirm their felt genders, and even hormone treatments or surgical modifications at young ages."

These sentiments echoed those found in a position statement released by the American College of Pediatricians last year entitled “Gender Ideology Harms Children,” in which the writers asserted that any policies that encouraged the belief that gender dysphoria is anything beyond a psychological problem are in fact harmful.

These findings have been fiercely contested by those on the Left, who are more interested in political correctness than scientific evidence. However, PJ Media did a piece last year that focused on some of the real-life victims of what it dubbed the transgender “cult.” That article claimed that the victims were encouraged to embrace their gender confusion in their youth and are now living with the repercussions of those decisions.

In last year’s study, the authors concluded, “The potential that patients undergoing medical and surgical sex reassignment may want to return to a gender identity consistent with their biological sex suggests that reassignment carries considerable psychological and physical risk.”

The latest study reaches a similar conclusion, "While there is much that is not known with certainty about gender dysphoria, there is clear evidence that patients who identify as the opposite sex often suffer a great deal. They have higher rates of anxiety, depression, and even suicide than the general population. Something must be done to help these patients, but as scientists struggle to better understand what gender dysphoria is and what causes it, it would not seem prudent to embrace hormonal treatments and sex reassignment as the foremost therapeutic tools for treating this condition."

Sadly, the trendiness of transgenderism will continue to have a negative influence on science’s approach to it. According to Stephen Stathis, an Australian expert on the sexes, children are being over-diagnosed as transgender since most will outgrow this phase, and many are experimenting with transgenderism because it has become "trendy." What's more, parents are being influenced by the trendiness of it as well, succumbing to pressures by society to encourage transgender behaviors in their children, according to Alice Dreger, a bioethicist and professor at Northwestern University's Feinberg School of Medicine in Chicago. She notes that parents who allow their children to change genders "are socially rewarded as wonderful and accepting," while those who don't are perceived as "unaccepting, lacking in affection and conservative."

This is particularly troublesome, as a study by the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health in Toronto, Canada, found that transgenderism was more persistent in children when promoted by adults.



https://www.thenewamerican.com/tech...ing-drugs-not-right-for-gender-dysphoria

MontanaMan: Tragic!
More liberal lunacy on display.
WTH?
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

[quote=sportingspecialist]Although the study referenced in this article is three years old,it certainly places in question the use of such drugs as puberty blockers on children.The most important conclusion reached by these world renowned physicians is this:
The doctors found that puberty blockers create four major problems, including prolonging gender dysphoria in children who would otherwise outgrow it.


A new study shows once more that significant research is still needed in order for doctors to understand how to treat transgenderism, particularly in young patients. Unfortunately, the scientific approach to gender dysphoria has been heavily influenced by the PC movement and as such may be resorting to harmful interventions to appease social-justice warriors. According to a study published in The New Atlantis on Tuesday, children suffering from gender dysphoria should not be treated with puberty-blocking drugs because they create additional complications.


I’ve read this and about 1000 others.

Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity
Lesbian, gay, and bisexual kids are 3x more likely than straight kids to attempt suicide at some point in their lives.

Medically serious attempts at suicide are 4x more likely among LGBTQ youth than other young people.

African American, Latino, Native American, and Asian American people who are lesbian, gay, or bisexual attempt suicide at especially high rates.
41% of trans adults said they had attempted suicide, in one study. The same study found that 61% of trans people who were victims of physical assault had attempted suicide.

Lesbian, gay, and bisexual young people who come from families that reject or do not accept them are over 8x more likely to attempt suicide than those whose families accept them.

Each time an LGBTQ person is a victim of physical or verbal harassment or abuse, they become 2.5x more likely to hurt themselves.



Can anyone really say that a child would choose to feel this way?

I wish any of you that don't get this would spend a weekend with one of these kids, you would have a whole nother outlook. So many of you have been poisoned by the radical left and the idea that we are in a crisis with gender identification. These people have been sold out by the Obamas and the rest of the Alphabet people. The vast majority of these people want nothing to do with the celebrity life that the Obamas made the normal.

I’ve offered airfare and lodging.

The crazy people wearing pussy hats and the like are in the news and making headlines, they are doing more harm than any of us will ever know ,the kids like your's are paying the price, just remember neither you or your child are alone, ignore the hate and enjoy every minute that you get to spend together, one day this will all make sense to the uncaring along with the ignorant.