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Thats outrageous !!!
Like 600+p+ bucks in labor
75 to 250 bucks for a replacement one depending on model and where you get it from.
Replace thermostat for schitts and giggles another 10 to 15
Bucket to drain
Remove shroud
Maybe remove serpentine belt to maneuver shroud out
Upper and lower radiator bolts
Upper and lower hose clamps
No one around that coulda done that job in a driveway or garage for ya???
Throw the dude like 40 or 50 bucks for an hours work.
Holy fugg......
20 years from now you'll pay it too Ren. But until then I'm like you , change it yourself. Probably if push comes to shove. But that is fugging outrageous. 1 hour job max Most places 80 to 120 for a shop hour. I feel sorry for whelenman Pissed off at the D bag who charged him like that. Fugging mechanic taking advantage of whatever. If he was a neighbor of mine and said his vehicle was fugged up with basic job like that. I woulda done it for him for 40 bucks Half the min of 80 for a shop hour And used my 10% mil discount for parts. Done schit like that before for people. I might not enjoy swinging wrenches. But people getting azz raped by shops like he did is fugging outrageous.... And we all know it. That is a 1 hour job for labor plus the parts. Which garages mark the fugg up to the customer they get on discount to begin with. My 72 big block challenger needs a front transmission seal How much????? 😃😃
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Thats outrageous !!!
Like 600+p+ bucks in labor
75 to 250 bucks for a replacement one depending on model and where you get it from.
Replace thermostat for schitts and giggles another 10 to 15
Bucket to drain
Remove shroud
Maybe remove serpentine belt to maneuver shroud out
Upper and lower radiator bolts
Upper and lower hose clamps
No one around that coulda done that job in a driveway or garage for ya???
Throw the dude like 40 or 50 bucks for an hours work.
Holy fugg......
20 years from now you'll pay it too Ren. But until then I'm like you , change it yourself. Probably if push comes to shove. But that is fugging outrageous. 1 hour job max Most places 80 to 120 for a shop hour. I feel sorry for whelenman Pissed off at the D bag who charged him like that. Fugging mechanic taking advantage of whatever. If he was a neighbor of mine and said his vehicle was fugged up with basic job like that. I woulda done it for him for 40 bucks Half the min of 80 for a shop hour And used my 10% mil discount for parts. Done schit like that before for people. I might not enjoy swinging wrenches. But people getting azz raped by shops like he did is fugging outrageous.... And we all know it. That is a 1 hour job for labor plus the parts. Which garages mark the fugg up to the customer they get on discount to begin with. My 72 big block challenger needs a front transmission seal How much????? 😃😃 Pack of smokes, 2 thighs and a doughnut.
We pray our sights be straight
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We pray for no pain
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We thank you Lord
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We thank you for the sights
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We pray for safety, one and all
We pray we may return next fall
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Don’t need to google it to make you out as a fool. 68 years old been working on cars and trucks since 12. 3 years as a tank and track vehicle mechanic in the Army. I would say that 56 years of turning a wrench I don’t need google. You are still a genius in your own mind. LMAO. So you cant say whether it was a car or a cherokee And ya aint got a lift Or a mind to think things out Or a combo of a buncha schit Pffft.... Your a parts replacer.... Thats it...... Army track mechanic. Shock and awe factor right their. Lol!!! Whoop te fugging do... Parts replacer at 10 to 30 level maintenance. Worked on plenty of tracks with the "mechanics". All of ya always looking for a reason why something cant get done and how it has to go to higher level of repair per the MAC chart. Fugg the MAC chart. Fugging fix it on our own ..... Always........ Tell me how ta get the starter outta a 113 without pulling the Pack. Tell me why AOAP results always come back with oil in the blower air box on detriot deisel 53 series and a whole pack has ta be overhauled cause of it supposedly Which simple 17 dollar kit fixes the dumb problem and which way is the easiest way to replace and fix the problem And I might be impressed by your knowledge...... Army track mechanic..... GMFAB.......... Holy sh*t you really get butt hurt easy don’t ya. So I called a fuggin car. It’s a Grand Fuggin Cherokee. What a butt hurt fool you be.
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I don’t have a lift and I doubt “All Data” has a listing for it. I’ll get a carton of pall mall and some oak cross-ties. One thing for sure, I won’t pay $180 for $13 seal like “Son Jake” 
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Had to replace the leaking radiator in he wife's 2003 Jeep Liberty. Front impact sensor right next to radiator and somehow got unplugged causing warning light. Plugged it back in, but didn't clear the code. Tried disconnecting the battery for an hour to hopefully let the system reset itself. Didn't work. Now I'm trying to troubleshoot the darn thing without it exploding in my face when I turn the key. Any thoughts? 2003 Liberty that sensor is a hard code. Won’t clear on power down. Only way is to hook up a code reader and clear it. Any auto parts shop should have a scanner and can clear it for you. Yep tied into the air bag. One of those codes that forces you to take it in. They only want that fugger flying out at 100 mph to help you.
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You retards do realize, that every vehicle is different to work on right !
If you haven't done it, on that exact vehicle, stop with the guestimates.
I just did mine, in my automotive garage - 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, 4.7L V8. With 15 years of Northwest Ontarios corrosion & it took me almost 4 hours, start to refilled, bled & bought to temperature.
All the correct tools & using "proper" procedures at my disposal.
List price for this rad was $305 canadian, + 6 liters of premixed antifreeze.
If billed out, would have been $737 + HST = $833 Canadian First of all no good mechanic would own a 2004 Cherokee. But I guess it would help. That just proves you either don't know much about mechanics or 2004 Grand Cherokees.. Ya got me there. Careful ya don't burn your ass on those heated seats. My 04 Laredo doesn't have heated seats. OK so we've extablished you don't know much about Grand Cherokees. What about mechanics ?
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looks like it is listed as three hour job. Yep, 3 hours by Mitchell ProDemand, which is based on Arizona's environment. or 3 hours by Alldata, without transmission cooler lines, which were my biggest issue to remove.
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Had to replace the leaking radiator in he wife's 2003 Jeep Liberty. Front impact sensor right next to radiator and somehow got unplugged causing warning light. Plugged it back in, but didn't clear the code. Tried disconnecting the battery for an hour to hopefully let the system reset itself. Didn't work. Now I'm trying to troubleshoot the darn thing without it exploding in my face when I turn the key. Any thoughts? 2003 Liberty that sensor is a hard code. Won’t clear on power down. Only way is to hook up a code reader and clear it. Any auto parts shop should have a scanner and can clear it for you. Will try that. Thank you. Wrong...... It is against the law for them to red button and clear your codes per the NTSC. you should know that...... However if you have a good interaction between you and them They will turn a blind eye and let you do it. Now someone like swifto52 the " mechanic" if he does it. is gonna charge ya a diagnostic fee. But then he will tell ya he might waive it if any repairs are needed and he does em. And if ya dont have him do it You pay him a diagnostic fee. Dammed if ya do , dammed if ya dont situation LOL!!! Just go to a auto zone or wherever Have em pull the codes Have em print out the codes and what they are and see if they will turn a blind eye and let you red button it . If it works and clears the code and any previous codes Roll with it If not, you got the print out of schitt as a baseline start.
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Had to replace the leaking radiator in he wife's 2003 Jeep Liberty. Front impact sensor right next to radiator and somehow got unplugged causing warning light. Plugged it back in, but didn't clear the code. Tried disconnecting the battery for an hour to hopefully let the system reset itself. Didn't work. Now I'm trying to troubleshoot the darn thing without it exploding in my face when I turn the key. Any thoughts? 2003 Liberty that sensor is a hard code. Won’t clear on power down. Only way is to hook up a code reader and clear it. Any auto parts shop should have a scanner and can clear it for you. Yep tied into the air bag. One of those codes that forces you to take it in. They only want that fugger flying out at 100 mph to help you. Yep, if the air bag light is on, as you indicated, the system is non functional until rectified, so won't go off in your face. Get the DTC read & go from there - they my be able to clear the code & therefore reset, or they my "suggest" you need work done.
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$875. And change! Plastic and aluminum.
I guess there all plastic and aluminum now! They had some GMC pickups that had been repaired that cost $1200 so I guess I was lucky. I’m glad he gave me and estimate before the work! U bin had Aluminum/plastic $71-$245 https://www.carparts.com/radiator/jeep/grand-cherokee?¤tpage=1It's so easy even a caveman like me replaced one right here at home a couple years ago. Mike
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You retards do realize, that every vehicle is different to work on right !
If you haven't done it, on that exact vehicle, stop with the guestimates.
I just did mine, in my automotive garage - 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, 4.7L V8. With 15 years of Northwest Ontarios corrosion & it took me almost 4 hours, start to refilled, bled & bought to temperature.
All the correct tools & using "proper" procedures at my disposal.
List price for this rad was $305 canadian, + 6 liters of premixed antifreeze.
If billed out, would have been $737 + HST = $833 Canadian First of all no good mechanic would own a 2004 Cherokee. But I guess it would help. That just proves you either don't know much about mechanics or 2004 Grand Cherokees.. Ya got me there. Careful ya don't burn your ass on those heated seats. My 04 Laredo doesn't have heated seats. OK so we've extablished you don't know much about Grand Cherokees. What about mechanics ? Oh, but my Limited does !! So nice on a -30 morning.
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Paul.
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You retards do realize, that every vehicle is different to work on right !
If you haven't done it, on that exact vehicle, stop with the guestimates.
I just did mine, in my automotive garage - 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, 4.7L V8. With 15 years of Northwest Ontarios corrosion & it took me almost 4 hours, start to refilled, bled & bought to temperature.
All the correct tools & using "proper" procedures at my disposal.
List price for this rad was $305 canadian, + 6 liters of premixed antifreeze.
If billed out, would have been $737 + HST = $833 Canadian First of all no good mechanic would own a 2004 Cherokee. But I guess it would help. That just proves you either don't know much about mechanics or 2004 Grand Cherokees.. Ya got me there. Careful ya don't burn your ass on those heated seats. My 04 Laredo doesn't have heated seats. OK so we've extablished you don't know much about Grand Cherokees. What about mechanics ? Ya got me again. Haven't known or fired one in years.
We pray our sights be straight
and our aim be true
We pray for no pain
to the game we pursue
We thank you Lord
for this land
We thank you for the sights
from our stands
We pray for safety, one and all
We pray we may return next fall
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Don’t need to google it to make you out as a fool. 68 years old been working on cars and trucks since 12. 3 years as a tank and track vehicle mechanic in the Army. I would say that 56 years of turning a wrench I don’t need google. You are still a genius in your own mind. LMAO. So you cant say whether it was a car or a cherokee And ya aint got a lift Or a mind to think things out Or a combo of a buncha schit Pffft.... Your a parts replacer.... Thats it...... Army track mechanic. Shock and awe factor right their. Lol!!! Whoop te fugging do... Parts replacer at 10 to 30 level maintenance. Worked on plenty of tracks with the "mechanics". All of ya always looking for a reason why something cant get done and how it has to go to higher level of repair per the MAC chart. Fugg the MAC chart. Fugging fix it on our own ..... Always........ Tell me how ta get the starter outta a 113 without pulling the Pack. Tell me why AOAP results always come back with oil in the blower air box on detriot deisel 53 series and a whole pack has ta be overhauled cause of it supposedly Which simple 17 dollar kit fixes the dumb problem and which way is the easiest way to replace and fix the problem And I might be impressed by your knowledge...... Army track mechanic..... GMFAB.......... Holy sh*t you really get butt hurt easy don’t ya. So I called a fuggin car. It’s a Grand Fuggin Cherokee. What a butt hurt fool you be. What about the rest of the post???? And my other one Army track mechanic.... Pffft.... I bet I spent more time getting tasked to the Brigade DS shop to work on our tracks than you did in your entire 3 years spent as a 20 level fluid changer..... Nothing to say huh???? Tell me how you adjust and time the injector rack for bounce to keep it from hunting on a series 53 engine.... Click your ruby slippers and make me go away army track mechanic..... LMFAO!!
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I don’t do much on my vehicles anymore. They let us work overtime, easier to work the OT to pay for car repairs, plus it counts towards my retirement. When I retire, I may have to go back to working on them.
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You retards do realize, that every vehicle is different to work on right !
If you haven't done it, on that exact vehicle, stop with the guestimates.
I just did mine, in my automotive garage - 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, 4.7L V8. With 15 years of Northwest Ontarios corrosion & it took me almost 4 hours, start to refilled, bled & bought to temperature.
All the correct tools & using "proper" procedures at my disposal.
List price for this rad was $305 canadian, + 6 liters of premixed antifreeze.
If billed out, would have been $737 + HST = $833 Canadian First of all no good mechanic would own a 2004 Cherokee. But I guess it would help. That just proves you either don't know much about mechanics or 2004 Grand Cherokees.. Ya got me there. Careful ya don't burn your ass on those heated seats. My 04 Laredo doesn't have heated seats. OK so we've extablished you don't know much about Grand Cherokees. What about mechanics ? Ya got me again. Haven't known or fired one in years. My mechanic has 3 of them and wants to buy mine.
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I don’t do much on my vehicles anymore. They let us work overtime, easier to work the OT to pay for car repairs, plus it counts towards my retirement. When I retire, I may have to go back to working on them. Glad you're good with ripping off the taxpayers in your town to pay your repair bills. You should be proud.
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You retards do realize, that every vehicle is different to work on right !
If you haven't done it, on that exact vehicle, stop with the guestimates.
I just did mine, in my automotive garage - 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, 4.7L V8. With 15 years of Northwest Ontarios corrosion & it took me almost 4 hours, start to refilled, bled & bought to temperature.
All the correct tools & using "proper" procedures at my disposal.
List price for this rad was $305 canadian, + 6 liters of premixed antifreeze.
If billed out, would have been $737 + HST = $833 Canadian First of all no good mechanic would own a 2004 Cherokee. But I guess it would help. That just proves you either don't know much about mechanics or 2004 Grand Cherokees.. Ya got me there. Careful ya don't burn your ass on those heated seats. My 04 Laredo doesn't have heated seats. OK so we've extablished you don't know much about Grand Cherokees. What about mechanics ? Ya got me again. Haven't known or fired one in years. My mechanic has 3 of them and wants to buy mine. When he gets 5 of them he'll probably be able to come to work every day .
We pray our sights be straight
and our aim be true
We pray for no pain
to the game we pursue
We thank you Lord
for this land
We thank you for the sights
from our stands
We pray for safety, one and all
We pray we may return next fall
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There’s nothing I hate more than working on vehicles. I loathe it to the point that I’ll happily pay other, more talented men to do the work for me. We “inherited” my in-laws 2008 Outback that’s been well maintained but as I almost always do with a newly acquired vehicle, I have new brakes installed on all 4 corners. My neighbor, also my best bud, talked me into having the 2 of us do it in my garage last Saturday. “Ohhh, it’ll only take us 3, 4 hours max” my bud says.....
I got the “better than OEM”calipers, rotors and pads.....long story short, it took us 12 hours 8:30–8:30. It’d go much quicker now that we’ve figured out some “tricks” and having a rack rather than someone my size crawling around on the cold concrete floor. In the future I’ll gladly pay a professional the $300-$400 to do the job for me.
I know the social stigma attached to Subarus but it’s a comfortable ride and an “easy” vehicle to drive. It’s not sexy but my wife looks good in everything she drives. 😁 She’ll use the Outback as a commuter and grocery getter while her Bitchin’ Camaro will be used for fun.
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You retards do realize, that every vehicle is different to work on right !
If you haven't done it, on that exact vehicle, stop with the guestimates.
I just did mine, in my automotive garage - 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, 4.7L V8. With 15 years of Northwest Ontarios corrosion & it took me almost 4 hours, start to refilled, bled & bought to temperature.
All the correct tools & using "proper" procedures at my disposal.
List price for this rad was $305 canadian, + 6 liters of premixed antifreeze.
If billed out, would have been $737 + HST = $833 Canadian First of all no good mechanic would own a 2004 Cherokee. But I guess it would help. That just proves you either don't know much about mechanics or 2004 Grand Cherokees.. Ya got me there. Careful ya don't burn your ass on those heated seats. My 04 Laredo doesn't have heated seats. OK so we've extablished you don't know much about Grand Cherokees. What about mechanics ? Ya got me again. Haven't known or fired one in years. My mechanic has 3 of them and wants to buy mine. When he gets 5 of them he'll probably be able to come to work every day . Mines gotten me to work every day for the last 5 years.
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