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dont laugh, but I bought my 8yo one of those Yildez single shots from Academy, 129, I cut it down and added a limbsaver for him. It shoots straight, and we've never had an issue. Internal hammer and has a trigger break open on the bottom easy for a kid, it almost closes completely in on itself which makes it nice to throw in the back of my vest or whatever. Trigger could be better, but weve been practicing shoot clays off ant beds at 30yards and he's doing awesome.

https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/yi...-shotgun-105279941#repChildCatid=1584945

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I just ordered a Henry single shot .410 to replace a Savage 220. Several videos show that the TSS loads are good to 30-40 yards, no problem. Can use anything here, rifle, pistol, crossbow, whatever. What I end up using this year is anyone's guess.

I will have to test those loads to be sure about POI, as well as patterns. Carlson makes a .410 Invector TSS tube, but only in a 1.5 inch length. Not clear yet what length the Henry tube is.


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Gotten a bunch of conflicting "information" about the Invector tubes in the Henry .410, so I just bit the bullet and ordered a couple from their store to find out for certain.

Also scored a free case because of a promotion they're running.


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Okay, here's the Henry .410 info.

The tubes I ordered from Henry on 2-27 came yesterday; a Skeet and a Turkey tube with a knurled ring. They're made by Briley, just like the nice lady said. The internal portion is 2" overall, but they're 1 3/4 from the front to the beginning of the threads, so Carlson's won't fit, which is fine.


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This takes me back a bit, my first firearm when I was 12 was a NEF .410. It was carried for miles chasing WV bushy tailed rats and took my first Whitetail with a 3” slug. 30+ years later it sits in the safe...think I’ll go look at it a bit!


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I started with a revaluation 410 single shot.
My nephew shot it until he was 11 then upgraded him to a 1100 compact magnum.
It was nice watching him shoot my gun I grew up on and will be what my kids start with. My great uncle give it to me and I plan pass it on. It’s not a super light weight gun which helps with recoil for the young ones. The full choke barrel helps teach them the have to aim also


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.410 is more expensive than 20 gauge I'd see if she can handle a 20 gauge and if so I'd get it as itll be cheaper to feed over the long haul.


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Originally Posted by 5sdad
My dad apparently hated me so badly that he sold his .32 Colt auto and bought me an H&R Topper in .410. However, I foiled his evil intent and became quite a good wing shot in spite of (because of?) his attempt to handicap me.


My non-hunter dad bought me the very same, probably to just calm me down. I wish I still had it...and my dad.

Can’t say I had much success with it as I rapidly came into the very same in 16 ga which I did do very well with.🙂

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But, I would also recommend a 28 for the youngster and, secondly, a 20. A 20 with with Win AA low recoil 7/8 oz loads, for example, might actually be a better first choice because she can grow into that gauges heavier loads down the road.

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Just picked up a super nice H&R Topper 158 in .410 for my boy to hunt turkeys this spring. It's a full choke gun and I'm gonna have him run TSS #9's through it. It's at my smith's now being d&t for an EGW picatinny mount. Likely put a Bushnell TRS-25 dot sight on it for simplicity.

I've patterned turkey guns in 10, 12 and 20 by the truckload. Even a 28 or two. Never even owned a .410 before so this is new territory. I've heard all the stories and claims of .410's and TSS #9 shot. About to make .y own assessment. If I can make a reliable 30 yard gun of it, that's all I need.


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My 9 year old just shot his second gobbler with his cousin's hand-me-down Rossi single shot .410 using #9 TSS. Granted, at 7 yards I think rock salt would have been effective as well.

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last year i picked up a hammerless single shot 410, Its marked RANGER which was the Sears brand. Not sure who made it since its a hammerless.

Also recently picked up an Iver Johnson 28ga single shot. Very nice original condition. Haven't shot it yet, but a neat find.

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Winchester 37 may be the best ever. Dad bought two .410’s in the late ‘50’s, one for us, one for Grandad. My brother has one, I have the other. They’re not cheap on the used market but you have a jewel if you can find one.

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I killed my first blacktail with a Mdl. 24 savage 410 slug 55 years ago. Bet it still could !
Today I hunt grouse and turkeys with a Spanish sxs 12gauge with savage fourtenner inserts. Wife says no turkey this spring. The 410 has the freezer full!
Yeah I am a 410 groupie!


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I like this one.

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Favorite rabbit combo back in the '60's. I carved a more comfortable handle. 3" .410 shells do kick and the square edges on the OEM handle sorta hurt. The newer one, not so much. Lawrence holster. That thing has killed a BUNCH of swamp wabbits, slipping thru the woods, trying to allude a pack of beagles...

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Started my oldest on a 410 youth side by side a buddy gave me. He is very recoil shy still at 9 despite never having shot anything with significant recoil

He shoots squirrels and practices with it very well. 20g is to much for him but he has one waiting for him in the safe

If your not shooting clays( which my boy has done) or birds flying then it should be fine. I say it’s a great choice.

Plus with tss it’s a low recoil turkey killer out to about 35/40 yards with relative ease

Shot one last week with custom loads(tss) and choke that would easily kill turkeys to 55/60 yards. Would never have believed the 410 would turn into a turkey gun but it has. 15 yards pattern was very tight though.

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I got a winchester 37 when I was 9. Loved it.

That said, IMO an exposed hammer is less than ideal for a young hand to operate.

I am not saying it cant be done, of course. I did it as a 9year old, but then again I was a tough SOB, smart as a whip, and ruggedly handsome to boot.

OK realistically, I want . little kid to enjoy the shoting and safe handling, and some of those exposed hammers are more of a worry/annoyance for little hands and little fingers.

I went with a very light 12g with 410 inserts and then lite 12g reloads for my kids. They both liked it better, given the choice between a heavy double, the exposed hammer 410, and a mossberg pump.

YMMV.


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Quit giving in inch by inch then looking back to lament the mile behind ya and wonder how to preserve those few feet left in front of ya. They'll never stop until they're stopped. That's a fact.
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Originally Posted by bobski
I liked the idea of the Remington because its easy to (squeeze) open, it ejects the hull, and there is no external hammer. it cocks on opening. super easy concept for kids.

ive been down your road.....I teach kids and finding guns that work is key.


Good advice imo, though I still like an ultralite 12 or 20 with inserts, then reloads.


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People like the Winchester 37s, but I always found it too easy to get the rim of a .410 shell in behind that narrow extractor/ejector, thereby preventing the gun from closing. This is especially a problem when heading out to investigate the commotion in the henhouse at 2:00 am, shotgun in one hand and flashlight in the other.

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