But no ceegar...Beautiful left hook, though. Too bad about the eye on Cooper as I think he could have possibly beat him
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A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
Very evenly matched. Had the knockdown occurred at the beginning or middle of round four instead of the end, he may well have ended it there. Regardless, had Cooper not suffered the bad cut over his eye, he had a fair chance of winning by knockout thereafter, or by decision.
I had just celebrated my second birthday when this fight occurred. I remember it well. LOL.
‘enry Cooper was a national hero when I was a kid over there 😎
An athlete and a gentleman, believe I recall seeing him out running once when I was young and he was in our town. So long ago could be a false memory tho.
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Ali was a good fighter.He was also a jerk who would not serve his country.I have never had any use for him.
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Its all right to be white!! Stupidity left unattended will run rampant Don't argue with stupid people, They will drag you down to their level and then win by experience
"had Cooper not suffered the bad cut over his eye...”
oh, how’d he get cut?
he got hit
oh, who hit him?
Ali hit him
oh, so if Ali had not him he could have won the fight?
right
There is that, but far more important and very clearly and easily seen is the FACT Angelo Dundee used smelling salts to wake Clay up and tore his glove in an attempt to stall the fight. The stall did not work but the ammonia did. My father was a gas-passer and I remember him being pissed about it.
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Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
Cassius Clay was a good athlete, good balance and could take a fairly good punch - but he was somewhat over rated. Muhammad Ali was very much over rated.
there is that, but far more important and very clearly and easily seen is the FACT Angelo Dundee used smelling salts to wake Clay up and tore his glove in an attempt to stall the fight. The stall did not work but the ammonia did. My father was a gas-passer and I remember him being pissed about it.
The stall did work. As stated at the close of the video, the in between break in rounds lasted over 60 seconds instead of 15 seconds.
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Joe Louis was a very hard puncher and fairly quick for a heavyweight, but often dropped his left and was a sucker for a good straight right - a la Max Schmelling. Marciano took punches well - seemed to shrug most of them off - and a very hard puncher, especially inside. Biggest factor is that he was relentless. In imagination, it would have been a good fight, but I think he would have taken Clay out during a 15 round fight.
Joe Louis was a very hard puncher and fairly quick for a heavyweight, but often dropped his left and was a sucker for a good straight right - a la Max Schmelling. Marciano took punches well - seemed to shrug most of them off - and a very hard puncher, especially inside. Biggest factor is that he was relentless. In imagination, it would have been a good fight, but I think he would have taken Clay out during a 15 round fight.
Local Hero was Carmen Basillio. He lead with his face. Relentless. And served his country during his career. Didn’t cater to the mob. Made for a tough career. And a hell of a nice guy.
Local Hero was Carmen Basillio. He lead with his face. Relentless. And served his country during his career. Didn’t cater to the mob. Made for a tough career. And a hell of a nice guy.
Absolutely. After he retired he worked at a local college I attended, More recently my sister met and has become friends with Carmen's granddaughter. He was a hell of a fighter and a very very nice guy. Those who don't know him should search Basillo vs Sugar Ray.
I laugh when folks bring up some of the old boxers and make statements sound like absolute facts about them. Just on size, weight, speed and the ability to take a punch, Ali was the greatest. He, like Ted Williams (the greatest in his field) spent the prime of their careers out of their profession. That said, it is a reasonable theory Cooper could have won that fight had that hook landed a minute or even thirty seconds earlier. Also remember Ali took SOLID punchers from the likes of Frazier and Foreman, without question, the hardest puncher in boxing history.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
I laugh when folks bring up some of the old boxers and make statements sound like absolute facts about them. Just on size, weight, speed and the ability to take a punch, Ali was the greatest. He, like Ted Williams (the greatest in his field) spent the prime of their careers out of their profession. That said, it is a reasonable theory Cooper could have won that fight had that hook landed a minute or even thirty seconds earlier. Also remember Ali took SOLID punchers from the likes of Frazier and Foreman, without question, the hardest puncher in boxing history.