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Flu deaths up in the new year: CDCFlu deaths are up more than 65% so far in 2020, with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reporting that 4,800 people had died and 87,000 people had been hospitalized.Feb 21, 2020 deaths this year where's the panic? So far, 16,000 people have died and 280,000 people have been hospitalized during the 2019-2020 flu season, according to preliminary estimates from the CDC.
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Bummer all the way around.
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Blown all out of proportion and reality by a media and dhimmicrat party that has weaponized the story to harm Trump. Yep
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston
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25 years old. marathon runner, healthy as a horse. hasn't left his house in months. dead in 2 days.
that ought to get the ball rolling. now for a nap. ??? quien es?
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A guy in Kirkland, WA. That makes a total of 1. That's minuscule compared to auto accidents, drug OD's, knifings, or the flu. While the number of cases is slowly growing, this is hardly a pandemic. It's just a media free for all. CORONAVIRUSIt depends. If the lethality rate is 23 times that of flu (and it's likely to be much higher in poor countries) and if it is every bit as contagious as flu (or more so) then, it could be a big deal. They say populations over 60 are most at risk, which means guys like a lot of us here. 23x that is a bald faced lie.
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327 Million people in this country.
1 corona death.
Must be time to shut the place down.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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23x that is a bald faced lie.
I thought it was "bold-faced" could be wrong though
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25 years old. marathon runner, healthy as a horse. hasn't left his house in months. dead in 2 days.
that ought to get the ball rolling. now for a nap. Hasnt left the house in months? How healthy could he be? At the very least I would question mental health.
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A guy in Kirkland, WA. That makes a total of 1. That's minuscule compared to auto accidents, drug OD's, knifings, or the flu. While the number of cases is slowly growing, this is hardly a pandemic. It's just a media free for all. CORONAVIRUSIt depends. If the lethality rate is 23 times that of flu (and it's likely to be much higher in poor countries) and if it is every bit as contagious as flu (or more so) then, it could be a big deal. They say populations over 60 are most at risk, which means guys like a lot of us here. Best we can tell, same populations at risk for the regular flu are at risk for Corona. Keep in mind, at 23x number is likely inflated. People with mild cases are much less likely to head to the hospital and get tested.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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A guy in Kirkland, WA. That makes a total of 1. That's minuscule compared to auto accidents, drug OD's, knifings, or the flu. While the number of cases is slowly growing, this is hardly a pandemic. It's just a media free for all. CORONAVIRUSIt depends. If the lethality rate is 23 times that of flu (and it's likely to be much higher in poor countries) and if it is every bit as contagious as flu (or more so) then, it could be a big deal. They say populations over 60 are most at risk, which means guys like a lot of us here. 23x that is a bald faced lie. Actually, the death rate from corona has been about 3.3% so far for known cases. The CDC has reported between 32 and 45 million cases of the flu in the US since Oct and 18 to 46000 deaths. Using the midpoint of those estimates comes out to a death rate of .08%. That makes the rate for corona about 40x higher. Those numbers are readily verifiable on the web.
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There is still alot to learn about this new virus, the more we know the better prepared we will be. More details on the situation in Kirkland. https://arstechnica.com/science/202...the-us-first-possible-outbreak-reported/Health officials in Washington state reported three grim new features of the coronavirus situation in the US Saturday. They reported the country’s first death, the first case in a healthcare worker, and the first possible outbreak.
In a press briefing held by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Jeffrey Duchin, health officer at Public Health of Seattle and King County, announced that there are three new presumptive cases of COVID-19 in the county, including the person who died. All of the cases appear to be from undetected spread of the new coronavirus in the community. The cases were identified because the state just recently gained the ability to do its own testing.
Two of the cases are linked to a long-term care facility called Life Care in Kirkland, Washington, east of Seattle. One of the cases is in a healthcare worker at the facility, a woman in her 40s who is said to be in “satisfactory” condition. She has no known travel outside of the US. The other is a resident of the facility, a woman in her 70s. She is in serious condition.
The cases likely represent the start of an outbreak at the facility, which has approximately 108 residents and 180 staff. So far, 27 residents and 25 staff have reported some COVID-19 symptoms, Dr. Duchin said.
An outbreak of COVID-19 at a nursing home is particularly alarming since the data on the disease so far has clearly shown that the people most at risk of getting infected and having life-threatening disease are the elderly and people with underlying health conditions—such as cardiovascular disease, lung conditions, and diabetes.
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It depends. If the lethality rate is 23 times that of flu (and it's likely to be much higher in poor countries) and if it is every bit as contagious as flu (or more so) then, it could be a big deal. They say populations over 60 are most at risk, which means guys like a lot of us here.
23x that is a bald faced lie. No. He's about right. Average lethality rate for influenza is .1%. So far Covid19 is ~2.5%. That's 25x. Now the Covid numbers are probably lower than that due as many cases are probably unreported and they didn't die. But it's certainly more lethal.
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A guy in Kirkland, WA. That makes a total of 1. That's minuscule compared to auto accidents, drug OD's, knifings, or the flu. While the number of cases is slowly growing, this is hardly a pandemic. It's just a media free for all. CORONAVIRUSIt depends. If the lethality rate is 23 times that of flu (and it's likely to be much higher in poor countries) and if it is every bit as contagious as flu (or more so) then, it could be a big deal. They say populations over 60 are most at risk, which means guys like a lot of us here. 23x that is a bald faced lie. .01 vs 2.3 Sorry it's not a lie at all now apologize
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It depends. If the lethality rate is 23 times that of flu (and it's likely to be much higher in poor countries) and if it is every bit as contagious as flu (or more so) then, it could be a big deal. They say populations over 60 are most at risk, which means guys like a lot of us here.
23x that is a bald faced lie. No. He's about right. Average lethality rate for influenza is .1%. So far Covid19 is ~2.5%. That's 25x. Now the Covid numbers are probably lower than that due as many cases are probably unreported and they didn't die. But it's certainly more lethal. Hey! Stop trying to tank the stock mark so that Trump loses in November!!
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It depends. If the lethality rate is 23 times that of flu (and it's likely to be much higher in poor countries) and if it is every bit as contagious as flu (or more so) then, it could be a big deal. They say populations over 60 are most at risk, which means guys like a lot of us here.
23x that is a bald faced lie. No. He's about right. Average lethality rate for influenza is .1%. So far Covid19 is ~2.5%. That's 25x. Now the Covid numbers are probably lower than that due as many cases are probably unreported and they didn't die. But it's certainly more lethal. Hey! Stop trying to tank the stock mark so that Trump loses in November!! 
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23x that is a bald faced lie.
I thought it was "bold-faced" could be wrong though You just might be... Thought I think I have heard both. "Bald faced" not bothering to hide the fact that even you don't believe what you are saying? I am probably wrong on that last bit..
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Anybody else feel like the US govt has been lying to us about the virus in the USA?
A guy dies from it in Wash. state on Friday, who just Thursday said they did not have cases. Now the nursing home is full of it and they have known that they were exhibiting unusual symptoms across the facility for nearly a week. A high-school kid has had symptoms for at least a week, and has gone to school off and on, but just now they decide that he is positive. 140 health care workers are under quarantine from UC Davis, which supposedly is one of the best containment facilities in the nation and was prewarned about the incoming patient transfer. 8400 travelers remain under attention in Cali alone, but all have been allowed to return directly from China and wander around their hometowns with no forced quarantine.
This virus is already spreading across the west coast via community transmission, and it will continue to spread. There is no longer containment possible in the United States. So now we will all get to see what the real Rnaught and death rates turn out to be.
"No testing, nothing to report, no official problem"--seems to be the mantra of lying govts everywhere.
PS-the governor of NYS just said that it is "inevitable" that NY will have a case soon. Want to make a bet that they already have a positive test and will announce it late Sunday afternoon, as though it showed up out of nowhere?
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23x that is a bald faced lie.
I thought it was "bold-faced" could be wrong though You just might be... Thought I think I have heard both. "Bald faced" not bothering to hide the fact that even you don't believe what you are saying? I am probably wrong on that last bit.. Stolen from the web: They're both correct; they just happen to have two slightly different meanings. A bald-faced lie -- or barefaced, as it's often called in England -- means one that is undisguised and clearly untrue. A bold-faced lie, on the other hand, is one that is impudent or disrespectful
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