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...Will you take it?
Last edited by Steve; 03/01/20.
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Hunt with Class and Classics
Religion: A founder of The Church of Spray and Pray
Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”
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If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Nope.
Haven't taken a flu shot since the last one 44 years ago, either. Screw that.
Don't be the darkness.
America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.
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They do a lot of testing on new vaccines. The drug companies catch a lot of flak, the research costs a lot of money. I am glad we have them.
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
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It won't be available until this late fall, at the earliest.
By then, we will know a lot more about COVID19 and I could better assess whether the vaccine is a good idea.
There is also a higher probability that no absolute vaccine will be developed, as they have not been successful for any other coronovirus yet to date.
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Yep.... With a quickness.
Have had plenty of fugged up shots and pills from unca suga.
Throw the dice one way or the other. Get shot, virus dont kill ya and grow a horn outta your forehead from some shot side effect possibly.
Or take a chance, catch the virus maybe, and die or survive.
Horn might look cool actually......
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The only way is if i was knocked out undergoing some other kind of operation and would not know it.
When i found out i would sue the crap out of them.
Nope
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I have had pneumonia three times. Wheezing as I type this. My lungs are screwed up enough as it is, I will be standing in line for the shot.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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have you paid your dues, can you moan the blues, can you bend them guitar strings
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They do a lot of testing on new vaccines. The drug companies catch a lot of flak, the research costs a lot of money. I am glad we have them. This. It's one reason our life span has essentially doubled in the last 100 years.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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Well.......................
duh.
Assuming it's got a better than 25% success rate and no major side effects that is...............
I mean it's not like the gooberment is going to PIT tag me at the same time.....................I hope.
Geno
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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They will come up with one, and it will be in next years FLU vaccine.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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Yes! Not only that, but should we have a second vaccine for a mutated corona virus I would get both the old vaccine and the new. Your immune system is ofttimes partially effective against something it has seen before but it takes exposure which usually means infection to give your immune system any degree of competence. The parts of the virus that do not change will have antibodies from both vaccines fighting the antigen. The immune response to both vaccines does not have to be equal or even comparable. If you get a flu shot for many years chances are much better that if you do get infected the consequences will be much less. An individual vaccine may only be 50% effective. While we do not that I know of have a good handle on how long competence remains when you get a vaccine for several slightly different versions of a virus year after year. We know a great deal more about how long a given vaccine received on a one time basis can produce immune response And we are all familiar with vaccine that need to be boostered and some that just need periodic revaccination. This virus is likely to be with us for some time and from what I have heard from people like Michael Osterholm. It is mutating which is how they have established it is likely that the corona virus has been circulating in Washington state for about six weeks. The projections of how many people have been infected in that time come from making an assumption about how many people were infected on a given date and then using the R0 number to project the expansion. It is not precise, but it should be close enough to base a plan on. Usually it's done by assuming a minimum and a maximum number of infected as a starting point and then run the numbers to provide a range for how many are infected at a given point down the road. This looks very much like a situation in which we will have vaccines year after year designed to be effective, just like influenza. Viruses this well adapted to human infection don't often go away.
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But but..................
what if it gives me the Autism?
Geno
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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This looks very much like a situation in which we will have vaccines year after year designed to be effective, just like influenza. Viruses this well adapted to human infection don't often go away. Nor do they usually appear instantaneously so well-adapted upon their first cross-species infection. What was going on in that Wuhan Lab anyway?
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I have had pneumonia three times. Wheezing as I type this. My lungs are screwed up enough as it is, I will be standing in line for the shot. Uhh.....that doesn't sound so good. I doubt they would even give you the shot seeing that you have no prior exposure/immunity to COVID-19.
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But but..................
what if it gives me the Autism?
Geno Then, be thankful for what's an improvement and quit worrying.
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Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”
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