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Utah708, how much you sell it to me for, I pay the shipping to the state of Misery? Be Well, Rustyzipper.
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Don’t know what you paid for it but I would either take it back to the pawn shop and get your money back or send it into Ruger . If it has been rebored then Ruger may charge you for a new barrel.
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77/22 has been altered to threaded bbl attach. Doubt Ruger would accept a modified receiver.
All the mods..... line for 17m2 and thread fit......and not restamp chambering ?
Might be a half arsed rig.
Might shoot great and somebody just flubbed cosmetics. The muzzle didnt look very good liner wise.
If the receiver mod done right and to a standard, could maybe just rebarrel to .22 lr,. Be back in biz
Dunno who sells bbls w that mod.
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Utah708.
Will a 22LR catridge fit in the chamber?
From the pictures you posted, I think I know what that rifle may be..
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Pretty easy on the liner, all I know of are chrome molly put some cold blue on it and see what happens.
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Utah708.
Will a 22LR catridge fit in the chamber?
From the pictures you posted, I think I know what that rifle may be.. Nope. That is where all this stuff started.
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It does look like a liner when you look at the muzzle....to me.
You and me both. Once upon a time, Gander Mountain would convert a .22 to Mach 2 using a liner for about $150. The local store would send them back to the home planet for the conversion. Toyed with the idea myself for a bit. Ammo can be found online for $8.00 or so. Give it a whirl and see what happens.
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It is clearly has a barrel liner
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Since I am the guy who has held the gun in really good light, with a magnifying glass, you need to trust me that it does not have a liner. I understand how you might come to that conclusion based on the photo I posted of the muzzle, but it is misleading. The serial number dates it to 2013, and I believe they had shifted to threaded barrels rather than V-block by then. I think it is a stock gun with an incorrectly bored barrel. The shaft of a drill bit of 0.155" will fit in the muzzle, while one that is 0.162" does not.
I bought a box of 17M2 ammo, and it chambers just fine.
I called Ruger customer service and they have sent me a return authorization.
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My opinion: Yes, a liner poorly installed and crowned. Rough cut lathe work hides the liner crevice at the breech. Very poor crown at muzzle. I strive to do almost imperceptible liner crevices in the few I’ve done. However the Redman 17 liners are accurate in my experience if properly installed.
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Utah708: Okay..... but I still contend I have a BUNCH of Ruger in a BUNCH of calibers and not a single one of them has a muzzle crown anywhere near what your Rifle has! With your contention then the previous owner of the Ruger 77/22 bought it and used it as a 22 L.R. when in actuality it is MOST LIKELY a 17 Mach2 and said previous owner (owners!) which also includes the shop owner "knowingly over-looked the miss-chambering and miss-barrel size? Something does not fit here? I do so hope the Ruger folks will make your Rifle "come back" to you to your saitisfaction. Keep us informed. I am sticking with "bubba" doing/did a barrel re-lining til I see written proof (from Ruger!) that it was miss-chambered, miss-marked as to caliber and miss-barrel reamed and miss-barrel rifled into a 17 Mach2. The fact the barrel is "screwed" into the receiver is clue number one for me - you may wish to disregard this fact but "someone" has bubba'd this once nifty Rifle. In other words you are pinning your hopes on the scenario where "bubba" took the miss-made 22 L.R. barrel off without sending it back to Ruger and then "worked on it" (threaded the receiver and the miss-marked miss-made barrel of a gun he bought as a 22 L.R. and in actuality was/is a 17 Mach2) and then for some reason sold said bubba'd, miss-marked Rifle to someone, who may have been the gunshop in question and they then "innocently" sold it to you - lot of ongoing if's and but's and lapses of responsibility here! To many in fact. Again best of luck to you! I hope the folks at Ruger disregard the obvious and for some reason makes the altered Rifle "regular" for you. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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Utah708: Okay..... but I still contend I have a BUNCH of Ruger in a BUNCH of calibers and not a single one of them has a muzzle crown anywhere near what your Rifle has! With your contention then the previous owner of the Ruger 77/22 bought it and used it as a 22 L.R. when in actuality it is MOST LIKELY a 17 Mach2 and said previous owner (owners!) which also includes the shop owner "knowingly over-looked the miss-chambering and miss-barrel size? Something does not fit here? I do so hope the Ruger folks will make your Rifle "come back" to you to your saitisfaction. Keep us informed. I am sticking with "bubba" doing/did a barrel re-lining til I see written proof (from Ruger!) that it was miss-chambered, miss-marked as to caliber and miss-barrel reamed and miss-barrel rifled into a 17 Mach2. The fact the barrel is "screwed" into the receiver is clue number one for me - you may wish to disregard this fact but "someone" has bubba'd this once nifty Rifle. In other words you are pinning your hopes on the scenario where "bubba" took the miss-made 22 L.R. barrel off without sending it back to Ruger and then "worked on it" (threaded the receiver and the miss-marked miss-made barrel of a gun he bought as a 22 L.R. and in actuality was/is a 17 Mach2) and then for some reason sold said bubba'd, miss-marked Rifle to someone, who may have been the gunshop in question and they then "innocently" sold it to you - lot of ongoing if's and but's and lapses of responsibility here! To many in fact. Again best of luck to you! I hope the folks at Ruger disregard the obvious and for some reason makes the altered Rifle "regular" for you. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
If I read this correctly (and I apologize if I have not) it seems to me you are saying that because the barrel is threaded to the receiver then it must have been worked on. His rifle was mfr as a threaded barrel to receiver gun from the factory. Now in regards to whether it was refined or miss marked from the factory is yet to be determined. I do side with others that I have never seen a Ruger barrel crown look that bad and I have seen more than a few. In the end I hope we get the answers and Ruger takes care of this rifle for the original poster.
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Varmintguy--
I appreciate that your interest in this rifle motivated such a lengthy reply. Jim is right about the threaded barrel. According to Brownells, Ruger switched to threads 11/13/2009 and my rifle was built in 2013.
Rifle is on its way to Ruger so time will tell.
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Ruger will probably put a new barrel on it and send it back to you.
Then they should try to hunt down whoever made it and let it escape.
If the rifle was assembled in 2013, that would have been several years after Ruger stopped chambering anything in 17HM2.
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IF it turns out that the barrel has been altered after purchase I could see Ruger charging to rebarrel it. If Bill Ruger was still around I doubt there would be a charge. That being said, if it was altered, obviously it’s not Ruger’s fault. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. My advise to the original poster is to be fully honest and up front if Ruger were to ask any questions. You never know when they might throw you a bone for being up front. I really hope this ends up going well for all involved.
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My bet is that the barrel has been relined. Hope it works out for you
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My bet is they say it wasn’t their doing and they can’t release it back to him in current state, making him pony up money for a rebarrel. I could be wrong.
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They can't keep it, they don't own it. They will either deal, or return.....
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been there, done that......
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If Ruger doesn't rebarrel it, It seems to me that he should be able to keep it as long as it gets the 22LR x'd out and 17HMR2 put in its place. If not, does this mean that anytime you have a gunsmith do anything to a firearm, they never have to send it back?
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