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The 30-06 is a boss.

It would be hard to beat it for an "all-around" North American rifle in my opinion.


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Originally Posted by Dixie_Rebel
The 30-06 is a boss.

It would be hard to beat it for an "all-around" North American rifle in my opinion.




Probably so. But I have a question about your handle there, ain't that redundant? grin



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I could live with a 7mag and a 30-06 and be happy.I think the 7mag is a little flatter shooting and the lighter weight bullets in the 7mag carry a higher BC than the lighter 30cal bullets.I think they become very similar cartridges with the 7mag using 160 and 175gr bullets and the 30-06 using165 and 180gr bullets.The advantage the 30-06 is,you have bullets over 200grs and it can still push them at a fairly high velocity.


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if you are struggling between 7mag and 30-06 you just need to settle on a good 280 smile

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I've owned only two rifles for the last 25 years, a .22 rimfire and a 7-08 AI, which do pretty well everything I want or need.

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Originally Posted by DBT
I've owned only two rifles for the last 25 years.......


Are you bragging or complaining? grin



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I've owned only two rifles for the last 25 years.......


Are you bragging or complaining? grin


Just sayin' - besides, they make it tough to buy firearms here, first a permit to acquire, something like a six week wait while it's processed and approved. A pain in the butt.

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Originally Posted by Dogger
if you are struggling between 7mag and 30-06 you just need to settle on a good 280 smile

No struggle.I'd rather have the 30-06 or 7mag any day.


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Originally Posted by baldhunter
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if you are struggling between 7mag and 30-06 you just need to settle on a good 280 smile

No struggle.I'd rather have the 30-06 or 7mag any day.


That's the choice I decided to make.

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The 30-06 is a boss.

It would be hard to beat it for an "all-around" North American rifle in my opinion.




Probably so. But I have a question about your handle there, ain't that redundant? grin


Yes sir, it is.😁


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Originally Posted by baldhunter
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if you are struggling between 7mag and 30-06 you just need to settle on a good 280 smile

No struggle.I'd rather have the 30-06 or 7mag any day.


I've had the 280 covered since the 70s --- 270 -> 7 RM.

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Originally Posted by Dixie_Rebel
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Originally Posted by Dixie_Rebel
The 30-06 is a boss.

It would be hard to beat it for an "all-around" North American rifle in my opinion.




Probably so. But I have a question about your handle there, ain't that redundant? grin


Yes sir, it is.😁


And proudly so, a "double positive."



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No question the 30-06 with a 200 grain partition at 2650fps is good anywhere in all 50 states for all big-game, and doesn't make you develop a flinch.


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308. It will do anything the 06 will do including bears and is better in auto loaders. Also more accurate imho


Loaded full bore a 308 is 100 or so FPS slower than a 06...even with 200gr bullets.

There is more difference gun to gun in velocity than that. It’s laughable to think the 06 has an advantage for taking game regardless of size or temperament


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a 260 Rem covers a lot of ground...


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Originally Posted by smokepole


And proudly so, a "double positive."


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Originally Posted by Seafire
a 260 Rem covers a lot of ground...


I would hunt any animal in N America and everything up to and including eland with a 260. GREAT cartridge.

the 6.5s are my personal minimum for general big game...but i dont say that to cut them short as i feel they will do anything a .30 will


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Originally Posted by Quak
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a 260 Rem covers a lot of ground...


I would hunt any animal in N America and everything up to and including eland with a 260. GREAT cartridge.

the 6.5s are my personal minimum for general big game...but i dont say that to cut them short as i feel they will do anything a .30 will



A .243: is the minimum here in Colorado. I've used mine on antelope with no issues at all and my .257 Roberts is my favorite for antelope. Took one at 500 on the run with it, no problem there, either. I've hunted elk with the .257 using a 120g A-Frame loaded to 2947fps and, while I never got a shot using that load, have no doubt it will work fine out to about 400 yards.

That said, I also prefer my 6.5's for game larger than antelope, Both of mine (6.5CM and 6.5-06AI) are too heavy to hump the mountains with so my .280 Rem is where I start when hunting mulies and elk.

Had my boat-paddle/stainless Ruger .30-06 at the range a couple days ago and was banging the steel at 600. Would not have any qualms about using it at that range for elk, although I would only take such a shot under perfect conditions, regardless of the cartridge used.


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There is no right answer to this question. Just to many different cartridge's that fill the bill wonderfully. But I do believe the starting point is 6.5mm cartidges because of better bullet's for larger game. I am certain the 24 and 25 cal will work well on even big elk. But then the #2 world record Grizzly Bear was killed with a 22 RF Long. I would not suggest trying that!

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Yup! There is no correct answer. If that were the case, then we would all own 30-06's and nothing more? Imo, owners of only 30-06's are a very rare breed. Although not ballistically superior to many other rounds, the 30-06 still fills many niches for all around use.

But I think that a close 2nd to the 30-06 for "all around" use say from deer up to and including elk including throwing into the mix the black bears and with the right bullets the dangerous bears as well, the 7mm Rem Mag would get my vote.



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