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In some what the same vein as the "30-06 is still a great cartridge" thread...
The .308 Win comes close, but the .30-06 can do everything the .308 Win can do, exceeds what the .308 can do when loaded to similar pressures and the .30-06 handles the heavies better. The .300WM also comes close but th e.30-06 has a much wider selection of factory ammo and with starting prices about 35% less than .300WM ammo.
Love my .22, .24, .25, .26, .28, other .30, .338, .375, .44 and .45 caliber rifles, but can't think of one cartridge that works better as an all-around option.
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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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1. First, the 308 comes close but TODAY the 06 can out do it especially with our newer powders.
2. I would NOT say any one would fill your bill. > "but can't think of one cartridge that works better as an all-around option."
3. IMO and for MY use & possible hunts in the future......
I'd take a 7 Rem Mag. There are plenty of GOOD bullet choices for the caliber LIKE the 30 Cal.
*** I like the 7s flatter trajectory *** THAT is the only reason. ! Dead is Dead, but flattER is better AFAIC.
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1. First, the 308 comes close but TODAY the 06 can out do it especially with our newer powders.
2. I would NOT say any one would fill your bill. > "but can't think of one cartridge that works better as an all-around option."
3. IMO and for MY use & possible hunts in the future......
I'd take a 7 Rem Mag. There are plenty of GOOD bullet choices for the caliber LIKE th 30 Cal.
*** I like the 7s flatter trajectory *** THAT is the only reason. ! Dead is Dead, but flattER is better AFAIC.
Jerry
I use both my 7mm RM and .300WM individually more than all three of my .30-06 rifles combined. I like flatter.
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At least there are 2 of us. <grin>
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All around better than the '06? There ain't one!!
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What is your universe? if it's North America, hard to go wrong with an 06. If you are talking world wide, then "God's Caliber", the 375 H&H would be it.
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Well, the 6.5 Creedmoooore obviously.
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ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
that's funny right there !
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Why is that funny? I'd rather shoot the '06 at brown bears than the creed, I'll grant you that. For LR, targets, steel, varmints, creed.
Deer sized critters to moose? Either one will work fine.
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I don't buy factory rifle ammo. If I were limited to one it would be the original 300 Win. Mag. As good as the '06? Ohhh...any that will launch a 150-220 gr. bullet at from about 2400 to about 3000 fps. The '06 is good but it ain't magic.
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What is your universe? if it's North America, hard to go wrong with an 06. If you are talking world wide, then "God's Caliber", the 375 H&H would be it. The "heck" with them Brits. I'm an American-------375 Ruger---:)
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8x57 mauser losaded to its full potenial.
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None "better" than the 30-06 👍.....Hb
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Precisely, howard1. One could also throw in the 7 X 64 Brenneke or 8 X 64 Breneke and the rimmed version of both cartridges, 9 X 71 Peterlongo. As with 16Bore I too am partial to the 270 and the 280 would be fine as well except that the 7 X 64 Brenneke I mentioned earlier came first by about 38 years. There isn't any fly's on the 7 X 57 either. The 30 Newton comes to mind as does the 300 Savage. The 7 Mag. would work fine as has been mentioned. The 300 H&H does everything the '06 does and a little more. I don't know anything about the 28 Nosler but I bet it's completely adequate as well.
There is a pick-up truck full of excellent cartridges...and none of them have any magical, mystical properties the others don't. Ballistics is ballistics. It doesn't matter if they originate from an American, British, German, Austrian, Swiss or French cartridge. Dead is dead. I believe I can say with complete confidence no game animal ever thought "I'm glad I got shot with a 30 Loudenboomer with a 165 gr. bullet at 2800 fps instead of a 28 Loudenboomer with a 140 gr. bullet at 2900 fps". Obviously bigger game ethically requires bigger cartridges and that list too is longer than a tall man's leg.
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If one came close, it would be the 280 Remington or the AI version. My version is a 7X64 Brenneke. Horses for courses. Depends on your course.
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