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Can't find any in stock anywhere, they all say out of stock, not backorder. I'm down to my last pound, and kicking myself for not buying more when I could find it.

So, has anyone else noticed this, or is it just me.

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Due to life happening I packed all of my reloading stuff into boxes around 1995 & it's just this year seeing the light of day again. Varget, like short grain H4350, is one of those mystical, mythical powders that I've heard of but never actually seen or used.


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I use Varget a little bit, like in 308 with the 175gr SMK, but never got into the camp of praising it as one of the best powder choices. In the large majority of applications I've tried it for, I've found other powders that give both better accuracy and velocity while still being very stable in changing conditions.

I'd suggest if you can't find Varget, post up what you're using it for and there are probably other choices that work as well or better.

With that said, it's still been a regularly stocked item in the local stores here, and I haven't noticed any shortage of it.

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You might try TAC at one grain less than your Varget load or Accurate 4064 at one grain more.

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Originally Posted by Yondering
I use Varget a little bit, like in 308 with the 175gr SMK, but never got into the camp of praising it as one of the best powder choices. In the large majority of applications I've tried it for, I've found other powders that give both better accuracy and velocity while still being very stable in changing conditions.

I'd suggest if you can't find Varget, post up what you're using it for and there are probably other choices that work as well or better.

With that said, it's still been a regularly stocked item in the local stores here, and I haven't noticed any shortage of it.


I have had the same luck with varget. I finaly gave up on it because i found far better powders to use. For me, everything you said is true and ill add that it doesn't meter very well either. Because of things like that, i always get a kick out of guys suggesting it for cartridges like the 223/556.


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I've always considered Varget to be something of a jack of all trades, master of none type of deal. I've used it a lot, but usually found powders I like better. But, it is my go to powder in the 308 and the 168 grain Sierra HPBT that I like so well. It is also produces the most accurate load in 40 grain bullets for the 22-250 that I've found. I'm sure I can find something that will work as well, and it's not the end of the earth if I don't find anymore. But, it's a powder that I do have a use for.

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I have about 4 pounds left in a jug. I have mostly moved on to 4895 or 4166 if someone wants to come get my varget lol

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Originally Posted by mjbgalt
I have about 4 pounds left in a jug. I have mostly moved on to 4895 or 4166 if someone wants to come get my varget lol



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Well sure. Just pay for gas and a day off work. Should be about $300 for 4 pounds of varget lol

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Ive got a couple pounds stashed back. I use it in my 7-08 but since Ive found Big Game I have stopped using it for now! Big Game has given me better accuracy with 150 gr NBT's

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Originally Posted by mjbgalt
I have about 4 pounds left in a jug. I have mostly moved on to 4895 or 4166 if someone wants to come get my varget lol



Which 4895 are you using? I or H? I seems to be easy to find, H is nowhere to be found around here, same as Varget.

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They may all be hard find at the moment. Varget is a great powder in many applications, but, overall, I've found H4895 to be a little better in terms of accuracy even if you have to give up a little velocity.

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I don't think it matters. I am using H4895 though

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I don't have any and haven't used any Varget, but instead use RL15.
I currently have around 12 pounds of 15. That should be all I'll ever need and then some, but when I see it on a shelf occasionally, I always think about buying more.

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Yes, definitely scarce lately. Just scored an 8-pounder from a guy at my club after searching everywhere.

My go to powder in 7-08, .308, .35 Remington and 30-30 Winchester,,,,,

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If I could only have one powder it would be Varget. Shootable .223 to 9.3 for me.


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A very few years ago a fellow, Gary Sciuchetti (sp?) did one of the most exhaustive accuracy articles ever written short of the Houston Warehouse test. It was published in Handloader. In a nutshell, he tested every component separately with an incredibly accurate .308 SIG sniper rifle. Bullets, primers, powder and cases. The number of shots fired and components switched, it must of cost thousands of dollars and taken a year. Beyond thorough, scientific elimination test. None of your gun forum 3 shot group bs. Anyway, his powder? Yup, Varget...edged out RL-15.
Like Ned, I find Varget to be a universal powder and simply superb in the .35 Wh and 9.3.


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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by Yondering
I use Varget a little bit, like in 308 with the 175gr SMK, but never got into the camp of praising it as one of the best powder choices. In the large majority of applications I've tried it for, I've found other powders that give both better accuracy and velocity while still being very stable in changing conditions.

I'd suggest if you can't find Varget, post up what you're using it for and there are probably other choices that work as well or better.

With that said, it's still been a regularly stocked item in the local stores here, and I haven't noticed any shortage of it.


I have had the same luck with varget. I finaly gave up on it because i found far better powders to use. For me, everything you said is true and ill add that it doesn't meter very well either. Because of things like that, i always get a kick out of guys suggesting it for cartridges like the 223/556.



I use it in all my 223's that's uses 65 and 69 gr bullets

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Can't find it here either. Love it in 22-250, 308s and 35 Whelen.


Haven't experimented with much others. I've compared it to R15 in the whelen though. Side by side accuracy is really similar. Till it gets above 45 degrees or so and the R15 loads open up. I've shot varget from the teens to the 90s from the 22-250 and don't see a change.

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