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Kellyweek,

You nailed it with, "Wouldn’t it be the .30 Thompson Center?"

Which is also basically the .300 Savage.

I thought it was the savage with just a little taper removed but wasn't sure.

MtnT

30-06 'creedmoor'

GAG,

HORROR,

Your sir are now OFF the Christmas list !



Yeah, I read your Xcuse..... don't let it happen again !

Jerry

I always used reloader 22 with heavy bullets in the 30-06

Well, no, but if it was the "younger Sophia", I would be tempted. The older, I would be repulsed! lol

I loaded and fired over 2500 round of 30-06. tried a lot of load none were any better than this.

Now that’s good to know.......

Lapua 185 Mega was hard on hogs in my 18" barreled gov't. Slow as a 45/70 but quite effective.

Mix Red Dot in a 50/50 mix with milk, let it dry... and I think you'd have Pink Dot...

Well, I am sure that the 30-06 participated in several Creedmoor matches over the years.

Does misspelling it make it any better? Or worse?
Actually though I think it's a very valid idea. The '06 ought (no pun intended) to be able to match the Creedmoor trajectory wise. And bring a lot more whomp when it gets there.
Now I'll go back and read the rest of the thread...

300 savage wtf? Every other thread here praises it to the skies and you guys all of a sudden act like your gonna ralf all over your shoes.jfc get a life. MB

I have also been playing around with my pre 64 30-06 and 190 ABLR. The rifle shoots 180 ABs at 2780 FPS into 3/4" groups, but wanted to see if I could stretch it out.

Powders I have are RL17, RL16, H4350, Hunter, and RL26.

I am not finished testing, but the best so far was the only load I tried with RL17. 54.5g at 3.350". 2 touching and a 1" flyer. I don't have velocities in front of me, but believe it was right around 2,700 FPS.

Hunter shot very similar groups and velocities to RL17. I tried 58.0 and 59.0g.

I wanted RL16 to work because it is more temp stable than RL17, but only group I tried with 55.5g was about 2", so probably won't mess with it much more.

RL26 has potential. A little bigger groups than RL17 or Hunter (around 1.5"), but velocity is around 2,800 FPS with 62.0g and no visual pressure signs, but probably about max that I will go. I will play with seating depth some more on this.

OK, Bonepoint is ahead of me

I cant spell, and I am not terrible bright

here is why: I keep reading articles that I don't get on how the 6.5cm is superior to the '06 at long range

here is the story problem: of the '06 shoots a 190g faster than a 143g 6.5 from the same barrel length and the bullets have the same BC and your using a suppressor that softens the recoil so that doesn't matter

the rifle is for hunting Elk, what is the advantage of the 6.5 again?, that is where I get lost

the only fly in the ointment is I need to get my flyers under control
2-3 touching - flyer, 2-3 touching - flyer

is it the bullet is to heavy for the twist rate? the powder? seating depth?

once we crack that code the 30-06 CM will be the undisputed king, it might have been already w/o CM

You didn't say what velocities you were achieving from the .308. but I'd stay with the Rel 17 and drop the charges a grain or so and work on the seating depth. 2 together and 3rd apart means the OAl is too long. Large equilateral triangles means it is too short. Apply minor adjustments to the seating die of around 1/8th turn. The more slim the barrel, the turns are less and the results much more. I have recorded dramatic results with even 1mm (..040") turns in very light barrels.

The 6.5 CM kicks a lot less. For most of us that translates into more, and more precise shooting. And a 6.5 CM can be built lighter, but still be comfortable to shoot. In the mountains that's a nice trait.

I'd also wager a 6.5mm/140 of equal construction to a .308/190 will equal (and perhaps exceed) the 190's penetration.

At the end of the day, a precisely placed shot with ample expansion and penetration trumps "energy" figures...

Only thing that makes any sense on this thread!!

ok, we are down to Vodka & Tang here at lockdown, our mayor has the C19

I looked at my notes from last year
my best group was 4 shots. 55g R17, 3.38oal QL calc'd pressure 58k, 2783, 2793, 2796, 2798, 1/4" group
with the browning BOSS set at 8.5. never to be repeated again LOL, 1 1/2"-2" after that, 2 together, one flyer


see the tease?

I can try OAL 3.36? 3.34? per AussieGunWritter, I already have 40 loaded, I will just crimp them down 0.02-0.04

lets change the name to 30-06 PRC lite

Aussie, should I give that a shot?

I just checked my batch of 40

I am at 3.363-3.365 OAL ave

bring them down to 3.40?