It’s been very accurate with any good 150 gr bullet in 30-06, about 52.5 gr. Decades ago I loaded for a lot of folks, and I found that if a rifle wanted to shoot, it would with this load. Probably over 20 rifles, no exceptions.
30-06 150 grain loads, 300 Savage 150 grain loads, and 243 100 grain loads. I have also had good results in the 7-08 with 120 grain bullets. In my opinion one of the better all around powder options but I am old. Have never tried it in the .270 but I know people who swear by it.
Any cartridge based on the 57mm Mauser case. Also about anything on the 308 case. I've had good results in longer cases also such as the 9 X 71 Peterlongo though a slower powder would probably be more suitable for long cases for those who like to chase velocity.
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Don't use it anymore, but in 1974, with a Savage 99A in 308, I bought a Lee Loader, and the little chart told me a dipper full of 4064 would work with 150 grain bullets. I shot a lot of those loads, and 150 grain spire points killed deer well. I still remember the wonderful smell when I opened that blue can of 4064. My Uncle Bill loaded 4064 in his .300 Savage with good results....those deer dropped too.
I use it in about anything I load... from 223 up to 338/06.... Its a main go to powder in anything from 22.250, on up...
sure it may at times be a 100 fps less than say a 4350 load.. but it will always yield fantastic accuracy... regardless of rifle, cartridge or bullet....
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I've used it in 35 Remington, 300 Savage, 356 Win, 358 Win, 270 Win, 280 Rem. There's powders that work better for me in most of them for velocity, sometimes accuracy, but if I had to pick one powder for an all arounder, it'd be one of my first ones. Very versatile.
Varget is my go-to 308 powder, but I keep 4064 around. To be honest I can get the same speeds and accuracy with either powder. The only reason I prefer Varget is the resistance to temperature swings. But Varget can at times be hard to find while 4064 is usually still on the shelves. If I'm working up a load that I know will only be used at the range I'll use the 4064 and save Varget for hunting loads.
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I used to use it in 308 and 358 win. It was somewhat superceeded by Varget in one and TAC in the other, but did great service for me for many years.
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My “go-to” for the .308 (150/165/180 gr.) also works well with 100 gr. bullets in my Roberts. Also used it for years with 250 gr. bullets in the Whelen although I’m now leaning toward 8208XBR for that application. Haven’t (yet) tried it in 7x57.
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I just looked up an article by Ed Matunas form the April 1987 American Rifleman. He cited that one ammo manufacturer used DuPont IMR 4064 for loading 110, 150, and 180gr factory ammo. (That would be Remington). So that tells you something about this great powder!
Yes I just dated myself and yes I cut out articles from gun rags and save them. Interestingly, while looking for the Matunas article, I stumbled across a JB article from the April 1993 Peterson's Hunting.....titled "New Life for Old Favorites". Obviously I have taste in writers......
I just looked up an article by Ed Matunas form the April 1987 American Rifleman. He cited that one ammo manufacturer used DuPont IMR 4064 for loading 110, 150, and 180gr factory ammo. (That would be Remington). So that tells you something about this great powder!
Yes I just dated myself and yes I cut out articles from gun rags and save them. Interestingly, while looking for the Matunas article, I stumbled across a JB article from the April 1993 Peterson's Hunting.....titled "New Life for Old Favorites". Obviously I have taste in writers......
The use of 4064 in factory ammo dates back quite a few decades. It’s old news to us old folks. But, it’s a good thing.
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I’ve played with all the new powders over the years looking for magic dust. The very first pound of powder I ever bought was 4064 about 25 years ago. It still puts up the smallest groups in my 260, several 308s and newest 7-08AI. If it metered better I’d use it more.
It has been a reliable performer for me in the .257 Roberts, .308 Win, .35 Whelen, and even some more obscure ones like the .356 Win. and .303 British. I stopped using it a few years ago in favour of more modern powders. But I recently picked up some good gun show deals , several one pound cans. Just today I developed a some good loads for my .375 H&H rifles, using 235, 270, and 300 gr. bullets. Very versatile.
Very versatile powder. .243 Win with light bullets, surprisingly accurate and consistent with 120 gr Sierra Pro-Hunters in 6.5x55 Swede, primary powder for .308 Win., great in 30-06 with 150 gr bullets, very good at max charges in 22-250 with 50 gr bullets, can be used for accurate loads in .223,Rem. but can’t reach maximum velocity achievable with other powders.
I use it in all my 308 based calibers. If you resize LC cases drop your charge two grains. They are really thick cases. Be Well, Rustyzipper.
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Wow. That stuff is versatile.... I've used IMR-4064 in an awful lot of stuff. Went through many pounds loading for an M1-A in .308 back when I shot NRA High Power. Works great in 22-250's, years ago a buddy used it exclusively in his 220 Swift, It's my go-to powder for 7mm-08, have used it in several 7mm and 8mm Mauser loads, even .303 British, and my Henry single shot in .308 seems to like it with 150 gr, bullets. Depending on bullet weight I think it may fall into the parameters for loading the M-1 Garand but my memory is hazy on that one because IMR-4895 is my Garand powder. And yet there's tons of other uses for it that I haven't even touched on.
I have an article by Jack O'Connor from Peterson's Hunting from November 1975. JOC lists his pet load for the 30/06 as 48gr of IMR 4064 with most rifles giving 2,700 fps in a 22" bbl. In a mannlicher style rifle with a 19" bbl he got 2630 fps. He goes on to say that it gives little muzzle blast and is more comfortable to shoot than slower powders.
I've actually used that load with Speer bullets on several Wisconsin whitetails.....works very well indeed.
Haven't loaded any in ages............but 4064 is/was my go-to for the .30/40 Krag
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Also my go to powder for the old .35 WCF!
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I wore out the barrel of my old .22-250 with this powder.. On the second one I switched to H4895.. I still have part of the last can of 4064 I bought.. Good powder but H4895 worked slicker through powder measure and I just never used up the rest.. It must be close 40 years old.
100grNP: I use it in several of my 220 Swifts. Just checked my handloading log book and 6 (six) of my 8 (eight) heavy barrel Varmint Rifles in caliber 220 Swift "prefer" (best accuracy!) IMR 4064! The other 2 (two) are running H 380. Long live IMR 4064! Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
My buddy is trying sell me his 8lb jug. He doesn’t like how it flows through his progressive for his 556. I reload for 223 but already have 2lbs of TAC. My other rifles are 6.5 CM using 130 game changers or 127 barnes 270 140 SST or 130 ttsx 06 165 or 180 sierras and 168 ttsx And 9.3 is not listed. I have partial 8lb jugs of big game and hunter. Looking at their web site it doesn’t have the heavier pills listed and all I see is 150 in 06. Lame. So I’m wondering if people tried to load the heavier stuff
All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
I used to use it in 220 Swift with 50s & 52s before I found RL15. It worked fairly well in 22-250 until I tried RL12 or H4895 & then later stepped up to a 22-250 Ackley which is a whole new ballgame. I used to use it in 30-06 with 147/150s until I sold the Garand. It worked well in 375 H&H until I sold that rifle. It worked really well in a 7-08 match rifle I once had with Sierra 150s. Never could get enough in 358 Win. cases, but my Whelens liked it until RL-15 happened. It's a very useful powder, but mostly a backup now. RL15 meters so much better out of a powder measure, but I keep a couple ponds of 4064 around just in case RL15 dries up.
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3006, 130gn speer HP, lite and moderate charges of 4064 worked great. I like the stuff.
Hoping it will work out as well in 7-08 with 120nbt.
Wasnt really aware its useful in 223... interesting.
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Another fan of 4064 in the 30-06 with 150gr bullets.
Yes! Loaded up a bunch of Hornady 150 RN’s for my 1895 Browning copy. Was when my right shoulder was really bothering me. Very pleasant load. And shot well. Can’t remember how much 4064 I used. Would have to go look.
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While it doesn't give the velocity of some other powders, it shoots great with the 200 Sierra and Hornady. I put 9 out of 10 with the Sierra in about 1.5" (threw one) with 48.5 at just under 2400 fps. Great load for where I hunt some thick woods, where the shots are under 100. It also shoots well with the 225 Sierra at about 2450 fps. If I want more velocity, I use TAC or XTerminator and hammer deer at just under 2600 fps.
I use it in: 22-250 220 Swift 30-06 for my M1's 375 H&H
It is almost interchangeable with Varget, listed loads are always close in charge weights. Those long slender grains don't meter as well as others but it will turn great accuracy in the above listed cartridges.
While it doesn't give the velocity of some other powders, it shoots great with the 200 Sierra and Hornady. I put 9 out of 10 with the Sierra in about 1.5" (threw one) with 48.5 at just under 2400 fps. Great load for where I hunt some thick woods, where the shots are under 100. It also shoots well with the 225 Sierra at about 2450 fps. If I want more velocity, I use TAC or XTerminator and hammer deer at just under 2600 fps.
I've been working with AA2015 & the Sierra 225. Real good accuracy & still creeping up on max. Almost at 2350 out of a 21" barrel with 41 gr. & it's still holding under 3/4" for 4 shots. There is some TAC on the way but shipping time with online orders is backed up about 2 weeks due to the recent panic.
So as not to completely hijack the original thread 4064 also shot well under an inch in 250 Savage & 257 Roberts with 100 gr bullets in the pre-chronograph days. Never killed anything with it besides paper, but it made me happy.
There was some short grain 4064 around years ago... Brigadier 4065 I think it was. Never did get to try any. I think it may have been made by the Scottish company that made some Hodgdon powder back then. Has anyone used Accurate 4064? Maybe it's the same stuff?
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I've used it in my 257 Roberts, but not much. I acquired 2 pounds of it some time ago and haven't used much until last weekend. I loaded up 9 rounds for my wife's 22-250 with the CCI 200 and a Winchester 55 gr. PSP. 35.5 grains looked really promising, but I started to see a little ejector mark on the case head. 36.0 grains saw it a little bit better, but the group was really good. I"ll load them up again and try them when the weather is cooler. It was 92 degrees last Sunday and that may have had something to do with it.
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I use it in the 7x57, .30-'06, and 8x57. I usually use other powders in those cartridges, but when I use IMR4064 that is where I do.
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22-250, 243, 25-06, 260 Rem, 7BR, 30BR, 308, 30-06, 303 Brit, 358 Winchester. Maybe a few more. Might have been tried unsuccessfully in a 9.3X74, I forgot the results. Be Well, Rustyzipper.
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