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Actually, my "house" gun has both.....................

MM

In the house I prefer a G19 w/ a wml and a hand held light on a cord for opening doors and searching. Moving through my home is much more efficient w/ a handgun. Actually practicing w/ both and making an informed decision probably works best. The OP states that he has an Aimpoint on an AR but doesn't know what works best, odd. Firing a 16" barrel AR indoors w/out ear protection is stunning, and not very smart.


mike r

Absolutely.

in my early-mid20's I touched an 06 in the back seat of a car iwthout hearing protection on. Instant damage in one ear. (the one facing the interior. The one facing the open door is "ok".

Noticeable from that point forward.

If all I had were irons, I would not worry one bit. Up close you will loose a fraction here and there IMHO. But for most cases the irons will suffice.

IF you are used to them and CONFIDENT in them. Which I am.

That said optics are on most of the vehicle/house guns. I love irons. But I like to see things clearly and all as in focus as I can and not have aps and sight wings and such blocking things out.

Have a Burris 322 or whatever that I just acquired. Its been REALLY good on pigs lately. Much better than irons would be but I have not had close pigs lately either, usually say 75 to about 135 or so.

Not disagreeing, but would add that shotgunning M4s can enough accuracy for room distances, although not trained as much since RDs became primaries. Also, some LPVs seem as fast as RDs, to me. All three are faster than irons, especially in low light.

Red dot for me. Inside of 10 yards if the bad guy is in the middle of the field of view of the red dot sight it’s most likely a hit.

Formudulous, What is the current level of deployment of the EOTech line of weapon sights in your realm and your opinion and experience using them? Thanks.

the electronic hearing protection can't help that much, you never see it used in the TV shows. A good pistol is what you want these days cause even if the boarders are wearing body armor you could just shoot the guns out of their hands, seen that on tv too.

I've read that body armor makes a head shot the go to on any stationary target.

Pretty much same with irons, if you can see the blur of the iron on the target IE sight base/wings and all pull the trigger...

I had to take sights completely off a 22 once for Carolyn to understand and learn where sights become important and where you just need to be pointing and pulling the trigger. That you were wasting time aiming and squeezing so to speak.

Personally I think that generally adrenalin takes over there.. if its close and fast and closing you are going to start shooting faster and more of point rather than aim.

@rost495,

Tell me how you see irons in the dark?

rost's point is well taken,, case in point is shotgun action shooting.

Not rost but will state that if you can't see your sights then positive target ID will be questionable, yet still essential. Use of a weapon in low light conditions is an essential skill and must be practiced. There are a number of methodologies demonstrated on You Tube, some actually provide good info. It gets dark every day and you can prepare and practice w/ dryfire suing a wml, handheld light or,ideally both,s in your own dwelling which is your 1st priority location.

The old failure drill, 2 to the chest and 1 to the head, as a practiced response is very useful if your opponent wears armor or not. Practice, practice, practice.


mike r

same way you can see the target in the dark---- you cant.


discussion has already assumed target identification to be a bad guy.

if target not identified because of light conditions, it doesn't matter either way.

It helps to use a suppressor. That helps to limit waking up those asleep and the neighbors. Waking up fewer folks, it may give you the option to dial 911 or get the back hoe out of the shop.

There are tritium options for AR irons. but a WML will silhouette regular iron sights. Granted, that isn't 'dark' anymore.

yep weapon mounted light will make irons usable and scopes too. Used my headlight laid against the forearm of 22 for years coon hunting.

EO-Tech 556 NV compatible is what all my house guns wear.