Home Forums Hunting & Shooting AR and Tactical Rifles AR-15 For Repelling Boarders, Red Dot or Traditional Peep Sight?

For a single purpose AR, i.e., "repelling boarders," which is best? Do you really need a red dot for room to room in your home?

Red Dot, for me, it's faster.

MM

No but you will need hearing protection. You can point shoot at room distances but a red dot adds versatility.

I've heard vets say that the need for hearing protection while shooting an M4 indoors is way overrated. They say they could still hear enough to communicate with others during indoor gunfights and suffered no long term hearing loss.

My Son did it for 20 years and just got out.

He has hearing aids now.

A few and you might be ok but a lot will screw them ears up.

I like a red dot .

The M4 must be a lot quieter than my carbine.


Suffered no long term hearing loss!
My ass!


Every darn one of them will sign up for a partial disability check
due to hearing loss.

What they brag about,

the truth,

And what they tell Uncle Sugar...


3 different tales.

Its your hearing. You sustain hearing damage whether you realize it or not. Auditory exclusion occurs in fight or flight events but you still get hearing damage.

Get a red dot. Aiming is a real thing. It’s faster and easier in diminished lighting conditions

With a weapon light the red dot if set properly works pretty good. The smaller red dots set as far forward are cool cause you can keep both eyes open looking around and in the area ahead.

I hear ya on red dots. Makes sense that it's faster. But the hearing loss situation would be different for a combat vet involved in repeated, unprotected, exposure to gun blast, over years, vs someone who always uses hearing protection at the range, but one time was involved in an indoor gunfight without hearing protection. I think it take lots of repeat exposure to have noticeable hearing loss.

Thanks.

They say the draw back to a laser is that your enemy can track it back to you. Point made, but indoors? would that be relevant in close quarters battle? Thinking one could be quick & handy for close up, when shouldering a weapon to acquire a RD might not be doable.

Just asking, no training or experience in this situation.

No. A single round from a centerfire rifle or pistol causing measurable, permanent hearing loss.

Having said that, if you need to fire a gun- you need to fire a gun. Hearing damage is secondary. Suppressors should be on every rifle.

Try the front sight wings at close range, might be good enough and fast enough.

+1

Anytime you are exposed to sound loud enough to make your ears ring, you have been exposed to a sound that caused permanent hearing damage.

I keep a set of electronic muffs next to my short AR.

Cheaper than a silencer and no paper work.

As for the original question, red dots are faster at the distances being discussed.

both, have the Back Up Iron Sights in case the battery on the red dot is dead or you forget to turn it on, the red dot will be much easier to see in a dim or dark room or range than irons.

a HUGE advantage of red dot or scope over iron is that to shoot accurately, one must focus on the front sight, which is very very hard as you get over 40 yrs old, competition shooters (my area of expertise) often use special glasses to focus better, but you lose focus at distance. Dot and scope crosshairs are focused to appear at distance so if you have your street glasses on or don't need glasses you see both the target and the dot/crosshairs in focus. This is less of an issue in a close encounter defense situation (not my area of expertise).

Poole

I have a hard time lining sights up when under stress, my focus is on the target, a bright red dot that magically appears on said target is a plus.

Red dots are the winner.

+1

MM

Has anyone scientifically verified this with a timer? I'm talking about max distances of like six yards.