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Could someone tell me the right way to make 35 Whelen brass from once fired 30-06 brass? Can I go straight from 06 brass to the full length 35 Whelen die and do I need to fireform the new brass?

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I'd start with virgin brass, neck up and fireform.


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Steelhead,

I have a lot of once fired 30-06.... What's the downside of using it instead of new?

If you load a normal 35 whelen load in your cases before fireforming will accuracy suck or is their some other reason to fireform before using a normal powder charge and bullet?

What's the best lube to use on the inside of the case necks when sizing up.

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It's been a while since I went to the trouble, but yes you can size it straight up as I recall.
Once fired may size up just fine .
If the brass has been fired several times it can work harden and you may split some of the necks if you don't anneal them.
Most of the whelan dies have a nice tapered expander for just such uses.
A dab of case lube on the inside of the neck too can help if you remember to clean it out.
Imperial dry case neck lube works well .And no I don't fire form, check case length though.
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My experience is the same as colodog's. Lube the necks! or you may pull the shoulder forward and give you a funny headspace problem that can become quite headscratcher. Other than that I maybe lost 4 cases out of 200 due to neck splits when using brass of unknown origin.I use dry mica for neck lube.


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Here's the method that Ken Howell suggests and that I've used with good success.

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All but one of the methods that I've used produced off-center necks. Fortunately, the only one method that I can recommend works perfectly � fire-forming with inert filler. I've used a hydraulic case-former, a tapered expander button, a series of expander buttons (.308, 8mm, .338, .358), etc, and found 'em all disappointing. Fire-forming was a most-welcome discovery.

� Prime with pistol primers.
� Lube cases with good case lube.
� Load a test case with 10 to 12 grains of Bullseye or other fast pistol powder (generally, I go light with a .25-06 case and use a bit more with a .30-06 case).
� Wad � sheet of toilet tissue into a loose ball and tamp it down lightly atop the powder charge.
� Fill case to the mouth with inert filler (Cream of Wheat, Instant Ralston, corn meal, etc) � but not flour.
� Close mouth with smear of Vaseline, cast-bullet lube, paraffin wax, or a disc of paper from a paper punch.
� Insert case in chamber with muzzle up.
� Fire.
� Inspect test case. If shoulder hasn't formed full and sharp, increase test load slightly and try again.

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I just run them through my RCBS dies and then shoot them?
Maybe I just got lucky?
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Originally Posted by whelennut
I just run them through my RCBS dies and then shoot them?
Maybe I just got lucky?
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Me too. No luck necessary. It just plain works. cool
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I use once fired 06 brass for my 35 whelen all the time, no fire-forming with excellent acccuracy, just lube the inside of the necks well with imperial sizing wax and have at it, really cant get any easier. I adjust my dies for a slight crush fit when chambered and like i said accuracy is very good.

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An awesome lubricant to neck up any brass is Armorall protectant. Apply sparingly with a piece of Armorall protectant wipe wrapped around a .277-284 brass brush on a section of cleaning rod. You don't even have to remove it. I have been using it for years making 358 out of 308 and 35 Whelen from 30-06. Cuts way down on neck splits. Once fired brass is all I use, buying new brass in the wrong caliber doesn't make sense to me.


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OK. I'm glad I asked. Just running it throught a 35 Whelen resizer is much easier.

I knew I should ask. Many thanks!

BTW: I'm doing it for economy. I was checking this morning, and the cheap 35 Whelen brass was a thing of the past. My first batch was new 35 Whelen RP, but that was 15 years ago. I guess times change.




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I finished resizing my small stockpile of once fired and range pick up .30-06; using Imperial Wax and a Hornady sizing die I went through somewhere between 125 and 150 cases.

I lost 3 cases to split necks during the resizing process but all others look perfectly fine.

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Been making .35 Whelen brass from .30-06 for years, lube with Imperial Wax inside case neck and outside and run thru .35 Whelen sizing die. Eazy-peasy, no additional steps needed


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