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I've been playing with an 03A3 that got a new Criterion barrel from CMP in Anniston.
It's done surprisingly good things with 165 SST factory ammo. I happen to have H4350 and 165 Interlocks on-hand, and have found the latter to shoot every bit as accurately in other .30-06 rifles. This would appear to be, "peas & carrots", no?
Still, an '06 is basically an omnivore, and I have H414, H4895, Hunter, Big Game, H4831SC on the shelf, and some others. With H4350 being so scarce at the moment, do I reserve it for the others in the stable who also feed upon it?
First-world problems, here.
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H414 was a great substitute for H4350. I had a picky 06 that didn't care for H4350 or IMR 4350. Switched to H414 and 165 BTSP and it wasn't picky anymore. A bonus is the H414 meters awesome in rcbs dispenser.
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Back in the 08 shortage I bought a bunch of H414 when I didn't want to spend my H4350. It worked really well. I reserved the H4350 for hunting applications where there would be big temperature swings, but for summer shooting the H414 worked great and meters better than H4350 as well.
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Sounds like you have a great selection of powders on hand. Why not use them? You might find one of them returns better accuracy than even the 4350. I too have a Criterion barrel, installed on a 1903A1 M1941 USMC Sniper clone. It'll return 1/2MOA on a good day, 3/4-1 MOA on average. Powder of choice: SR-4759, coupled with 170-180 grain cast bullets- the only bullets that have touched the bore since new. A couple thousand or so rounds down the pipe so far and not a sign of wear. When my 10-12 pounds of 4759 I have is used up I shall weep unashamedly as it's no longer made.
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Give IMR 4064 a try with a 168 bullet as well.
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Wonder if the reduced output of 4350 is related to the Lake City Transition, or the closure of the Australian plant
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Sounds like you have a great selection of powders on hand. Why not use them? You might find one of them returns better accuracy than even the 4350. I too have a Criterion barrel, installed on a 1903A1 M1941 USMC Sniper clone. It'll return 1/2MOA on a good day, 3/4-1 MOA on average. Powder of choice: SR-4759, coupled with 170-180 grain cast bullets- the only bullets that have touched the bore since new. A couple thousand or so rounds down the pipe so far and not a sign of wear. When my 10-12 pounds of 4759 I have is used up I shall weep unashamedly as it's no longer made. I've been getting some interesting results with 5744 and the Lyman 220 gr. cast bullet. Been running those through a Browning B78 single shot 30-06. probably will run them through a 1903A3 I have as well as a Husqvarna 06 I recently picked up. Just have to sit down and run a few pounds of lead through the molds when I can find the time. Paul B.
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Give IMR 4064 a try with a 168 bullet as well. IMR-4064 and a 165 gr or 168 gr match bullet will bring a tear to your eye......48.0 or 48.5 grains to be exact.
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Wonder if the reduced output of 4350 is related to the Lake City Transition, or the closure of the Australian plant As far as I am aware the ADI powder plant is still open. AR2209 (aka H4350) is a bit short here too. I buy it by the 4kg bottle so am good for a few years.
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Thanks, all.
I loaded 4 each at 57.5, 58.0, and 58.5 grains of H4350, and we'll see how they do (given my crappy shooting skeelz...) I think my range counts as critical infrastructure, so hopefully I can get out there this coming week.
I'll probably make a similar batch working-up H414.
The IMR4064 thing intrigues me. I'll bet I could work it into the 7-08, Whelen, .308, .223, and possibly other chamberings in the stable. Perhaps, should I stumble across some (cough, cough), I'll pick up a pound.
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Sounds like you have a great selection of powders on hand. Why not use them? You might find one of them returns better accuracy than even the 4350. I too have a Criterion barrel, installed on a 1903A1 M1941 USMC Sniper clone. It'll return 1/2MOA on a good day, 3/4-1 MOA on average. Powder of choice: SR-4759, coupled with 170-180 grain cast bullets- the only bullets that have touched the bore since new. A couple thousand or so rounds down the pipe so far and not a sign of wear. When my 10-12 pounds of 4759 I have is used up I shall weep unashamedly as it's no longer made. I've been getting some interesting results with 5744 and the Lyman 220 gr. cast bullet. Been running those through a Browning B78 single shot 30-06. probably will run them through a 1903A3 I have as well as a Husqvarna 06 I recently picked up. Just have to sit down and run a few pounds of lead through the molds when I can find the time. Paul B. try 30 gr of IMR3031 with the 220gr cast my -06 loves it. to the OP: yes, use it. there will be more.
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