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any body know who got the MONARC sold 20Gs less the juice. FUG? IF things weren't so screwed up I would have been a player

I know who didn't get it.

Well, actually now 2 people...

that would be me and you . If FUG didn't sure he might know who did. probably be a secret for a while Hell of a savage for the money!!!!

That is right in the range of what Amoskeag anticipated the gun bringing at auction.
Randy, glad that we had the opportunity to see the gun first hand.

Yep

Wasn't $20,000 the starting bid? Custom Enoch Tue engraving something like an F grade, almost surely a King carved stock.. wow.

Definitely wasn't me that got it. I settled for picking up another project to work on. Like I need more..

https://live.amoskeagauction.com/m/...order_num%26xclosed%3Dno%26featured%3Dno

The description says "factory letter included" with purchase, but is not shown. Wish it was!
The original owner was from Saquoit. That is where W.I. King lived as well.
The rifle is an employee purchase (Enoch Tue) per the referenced factory letter.
It is another rifle collaboration between Tue & King as contractors.

We've talked about #70.152 previously. It was a King purchased rifle with a custom engraving pattern.
Wonder how many more collaborations are floating around...?

one more

That's quite the rifle. I think it's a piece of art really, more than a rifle. A little over the top for me, especially the stock. Then there's the fact that it costs more than my truck. I do have a thing for half round, half octagonal barrels. I like them a lot.
Fug, when are you going to show us? Don't be a tease.

Well, one more at least, right? Maybe more? Never know what else might pop up out of somebody's closet.

congrats FUG your the MAN I would not have bid against you any way too much RESPECT much better home. I would have had just thrown it in the pile with my other engraved SAVAGE'S .you have a much better home .

OK, I'll be the jerk here. In my eyes a 99 with really nice wood, nice checkering, and little or no engraving is miles above this rifle. I don't care for much engraving on the metal. What is on a factory 99K is about the extent of it. Carved stocks to me look to much like a normally nice looking woman with too much makeup on, detracting. Same with revolvers-those with checkering all over ever square inch of metal are distracting IMO, the most I care for is a bit under the cylinder on the frame. A well known gun dealer in my state who attends major gun shows knows I'm a Colt Python lover and collector. Around maybe two years ago he showed me a stainless Python that had probably almost 100% engraving. Told me when I stopped at his table he thought maybe I'd be interested and snag it up . Nope--to me no engraving on a Python, in fact my interest in Pythons are 6" blued only. To each his own, but gaudy firearms are of no interest to me. So ends the soapbox rant of a no carving on stock, little or no engraving on the metal lover of 99's.

Well some people accumulate,while others collect!!! to each his own ,there are painters,and there are artists!

Pictures don't do it justice.

When you have it in hand the detail of the engraving and thought of the number of consecutive perfect hammer and chisel blows is just mind boggling. The time and patience and skill of the engraver is something I can't even get my head wrapped around. In a way he has immortalized himself.

The wood carving is interesting, but to me, not nearly as impressive and the metal work.

Thought the gun was pretty spectacular when I first spotted it

Yep, Ted has a good eye. But we already knew that.

Where is the like button when you need one. I have grown to appreciate higher grades of engraving more than I used to. Carved wood still doesn't really appeal to me, but if I could, I would.

Who did the work and who it was sent to ,is a big part of the guns allure and worth

Wow amazing engraving on that rifle! Hard to believe someone would take it to the workbench and knock the rear sight off it

Forget they are guns, they are works of art. My new book probably won't appeal to Savage94C but it will hopefully appeal to a large audience of people who are into the art that went into engraved, checkered, high grade wood and carved stock guns. To each his own.

IMO a gun, more specifically the Savage Model 99 as that I guess is what your book will deal with, is a work of art on its own. Pleasing lines, nice wood, checkering, maybe tasteful, but not extravagant engraving (Model 99K). I hope all the best for you Dave in your book, hope it outsells the press output. I think your 'Savage 99 Rifle' book is the epitome of 99 books, outclasses the Murray book IMO. No offense, just not into carved stocks and/or engraving. The R.L. Wilson book on Colts IMO had to many engraved models on its pages when it could have had just the regular run of the line models, but I guess he had to cater to the New England elite that he associated with at the time. Not saying you are, but believe RL Wilson did at the time and I'm not against anyone who likes a carved and/or heavily engraved receiver or the whole rifle. I just thought I'd post the fact that that type of firearm isn't a "OH-AH" to me and probably a lot of people. I'm just a Iowa hick who loves guns as they are and shoots what he has, not into buying prettied up safe queens or wall hangers. Again all the best on your book Dave.

The fact that you don't own or want to own a "prettied up safe queen" doesn't mean that you can't look at a gun like the one posted in this thread and appreciate the craftsmanship and skill of the men that created it. The talent and skill of the men is more admirable to me than the actual gun.

Every "Iowa Hick that loves guns" should be able to appreciate that....

To me it's like a beautiful woman- curves in all the right places and sexy as all getout- with tattoos covering her arms and back. To some guys those tattoos add to the allure, to others they don't. Depending on the girl (and the tattoos), I sometimes find it attractive but more often I don't. C'est la vie.

Another analogy is raisins on a cookie. The cookie is improved by the raisins- if you like raisins.

Never said I didn't appreciate the talent and time it took to carve and engrave-just don't care for it for personal collection. Even if I had $1 mill in the bank destined for nothing but guns, I wouldn't have a carved stock and/or highly engraved firearm. Just my choice. I have eight guitars, the last one I bought set me back a bit over 3G's-I could have bought another pricier one that had excessive IMO inlayed abalone on the fret board, but those IMO are too gaudy. JMO. I appreciate the talent that goes into doing those inlays, but as in over engraved and or carved stocks in firearms, IMO it takes away the natural beauty of the lines, wood, and other things that make either a guitar or firearm a thing of beauty in its own right. Guess I wasn't aware if a person was a member of this forum ya had to agree with every thread/post and couldn't post personal opinions. By the way, "This Iowa Hick really likes this forum"-just sayin'!

I like metal engraving ,,Its more refined and elegant ,,,,,,,,,,The wood carvings im not a fan of either ,,,look of more rustic gothic look is a turn off for me ,,,,,,,,,prefer the fine checkering and metal engraving look

Very well said, thank you for posting your most excellent reply.

I ( and I assume most people here ) like old guns because they were made manually ( a skill that isn't common today ). While I normally won't spend upwards of over $7k on a gun, I appreciate the art and skill set required to make them. I'm just a rural Kansas hick but I appreciate quality and expert craftsmanship, especially in a area I'm interested in.

Too bad you aren't as sexy as the women you dream about.

Savage 94C you should just keep collecting geetars and leave us collectors of fine fire arms alone with your negative comments. As far as I am concerned all geetars are only good for firewood

[quote=topnotch99]Savage 94C you should just keep collecting geetars and leave us collectors of fine fire arms alone with your negative comments. As far as I am concerned all geetars are only good for firewood[/qu

Everyone's definition of "fine firearm" differs. Last I checked this was still America wherein everyone has a right to their own opinion and the right to express it.

To me "fine firearm" centers around utilty: if it's accurate, of sound design, and efficiently functional it's a fine firearm. Embillishments, and to a degree condition and originality (but only as it relates to the above), don't add to its "fineness"- to me.

Aesthetics are purely a personal matter and to argue about them is pointless.

This is all rather a moot point to me anyway. If I had the kind of jingle to piss away on a toy of that value, I would be shopping for a nice Austi-Healey or an Alfa Romeo Duetto Spyder not a rifle.

All points of view should be welcome here and be able to be debated and discussed civilly.

Nuff said about that.

I like pink.

I didn't intend for my thread to say I'm against different opinions. I certainly am not against different opinions. Fortunately our right to our opinions is protected by the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and hopefully they will be protected forever. I enjoy the forum for its diverse opinions. Not everything is my thing. I'm not much into buying 99's that are already bubbaed but I do have a couple. At first I was appalled at Roy's ceracoated 99's but after I heard what he started with I didn't have a problem with them. They are kind of cool but not my thing. I will defend everyone's right to their opinion and welcome their opinion. I would prefer that everyone keep an open mind to what other people like but if they don't again that's their right. Just my opinion, take it for what it's worth.

I like it but not something I would buy. Too bad the highly engraved 1895's and 1899's didn't have the metal sideplates. The Ulrichs and Tue's would have had more area to work with. I hope Amoskeag has photos of the top and bottom of the receiver. I'm thinking about including a chapter for aftermarket engraved Savages.

I like the sideplates but then I think a double barrel shotgun without them looks unfinished lol.

Mike