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The thing about statistical models is that they are only as good as the data that goes into them. Considering the data in this case changes so fast, the “reports” are old news before they’re printed.
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MSNBC this morning
“The US casualty total could possibly reach 200,000. That’s more than all the US war time casualties, for every war ever fought, doubled.”
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MSNBC this morning
“The US casualty total could possibly reach 200,000. That’s more than all the US war time casualties, for every war ever fought, doubled.”
History is not their strong suit.
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MSNBC this morning
“The US casualty total could possibly reach 200,000. That’s more than all the US war time casualties, for every war ever fought, doubled.”
The elite are at it again.
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MSNBC this morning
“The US casualty total could possibly reach 200,000. That’s more than all the US war time casualties, for every war ever fought, doubled.”
The elite are at it again. The 'owners' are at it again. We're the most propgandized people in world history. Pravda ain't even close.
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Numbers from “Experts” are all over the map on this stuff
From 3.5 Million Americans will die to 100 to 200K now.
Who do we believe??? Doesn't make a bit of difference. The numbers will sort themselves out. Each individual person will either get it or not. And will die or not. There is nothing we can do about that period. If you believe, its all in Gods hands. If you dont. Then its just how the cookie crumbles.
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The context for this matters:
60,000 Americans die from the flu every year. About 40,000 die in car accidents, 20,000 die in homocides and 60,000 die from suicide. Meanwhile, 600,000 die from cancer and 650,000 die from heart disease every year.
I think if those numbers were mentioned alongside any projected COVID-19 death rates, it would cause us all to settle down a bit. Great context. Thanks for posting that. Nobody knows what the final death tally will be, and nobody is claiming to know. Fauci put out a possible worst-case scenario estimate, is all. This shouldn't be more than a passing blip on anyone's radar.
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No one I know has died from the China virus yet, hopefully it'll remain that way. It's your responsibility to look after you and yours.
Life is good live it while you can.
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It's simple really. There are approximately 320 million Americans. Mortality rate is roughly around 1.5%.... You have better check your numbers. The world rate isn't even close. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ THe topic/question is IN the US and not the rest of the world. Numbers for the US are accurate.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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In the USA, Wednesday there were 1000 dead. Saturday night it hit 2000. Might be something to be concerned about. I'm more concerned about our economy at this point by a wide margin. Gonna be a long cold summer if this drags out another 6 weeks or more, which I think it will. I'm betting [bleep] gets way worse, Biden gets elected And a week later it's over. I got one better for you. After Biden is elected, all of the liberals living in the densely populated cities are now able to work from home and realize its allot safer to live out in the country and there is a mass exodus of liberals into the rural areas and all those red states turn blue.
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Don't leave the house, spray doorknobs with 70 % alcohol and use gloves when handling mail and you should be ok.
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The context for this matters:
60,000 Americans die from the flu every year. About 40,000 die in car accidents, 20,000 die in homocides and 60,000 die from suicide. Meanwhile, 600,000 die from cancer and 650,000 die from heart disease every year.
I think if those numbers were mentioned alongside any projected COVID-19 death rates, it would cause us all to settle down a bit. Great context. Thanks for posting that. Nobody knows what the final death tally will be, and nobody is claiming to know. Fauci put out a possible worst-case scenario estimate, is all. This shouldn't be more than a passing blip on anyone's radar. Thanks Doc for offering your perspective and thoughts! It’s comforting to hear from someone with your experience and knowledge and a voice of reason amidst all this damn chaos.
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston
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In the USA, Wednesday there were 1000 dead. Saturday night it hit 2000. Might be something to be concerned about. I'm more concerned about our economy at this point by a wide margin. Gonna be a long cold summer if this drags out another 6 weeks or more, which I think it will. I'm betting [bleep] gets way worse, Biden gets elected And a week later it's over. I got one better for you. After Biden is elected, all of the liberals living in the densely populated cities are now able to work from home and realize its allot safer to live out in the country and there is a mass exodus of liberals into the rural areas and all those red states turn blue. Trump said this morning that if “Sleeping Joe” was President that he wouldn’t have a Fuqking clue about what was going on. Of course, I’m paraphrasing. 😜
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston
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THe topic/question is IN the US and not the rest of the world. Numbers for the US are accurate. You are saying 4.8 million Americans will die from Covid? That thought is asinine and irresponsible. It's really not that simple. The numbers are incomplete due to lack of testing and presentation. Any 'simple math' prediction model is incomplete and flawed at this time. The number of cases is unknown, as is the cause of death - any respiratory distress will be COVID to fit the panic narrative.
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The death rate is also a function of the number of ICU beds per 100,000, Germany has 34, Italy has 8. It's not just the beds, but the number of highly trained ICU nurses, as well . That is why flattening the curve is so important. It will not decrease the total number of cases, only spread them out over time. Any reloader will understand that. Area under the curve. We as a society will get through this, look at the % numbers of the Spanish Flu, which came from Kanas BTW. Though many of us old pharts might not, we may not rate an ICU bed. If after 18 month I'm still around, the Good Lord is still willing to give me time to repent.
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Fauci warns 100–200K Americans could die from virus, but says projections are “moving target” - Axios
“Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said on CNN's "State of the Union" Sunday that models suggest the coronavirus will infect millions of Americans and could kill 100,000–200,000, though he stressed that the projections are "such a moving target."
Why it matters: Fauci has been the coronavirus task force's most outspoken advocate for emergency social distancing measures to stop the spread of the coronavirus, sometimes contradicting President Trump's more optimistic outlook.” Isn't this what Trump said today? Who you going to believe?
...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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I can't help it. I have a hard time letting go of the.place this once was.
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The thing about statistical models is that they are only as good as the data that goes into them. Considering the data in this case changes so fast, the “reports” are old news before they’re printed. The data going in is f.ucked
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Agreed.
The U.S. hit another one of several grim and sad milestones today: Health officials announced the 3,000th coronavirus-related death in the country, with about 900 from New York City alone, according to data from Johns Hopkins University....
We need to do our part in flattening the curve and by following all CDC, WHO and State and Local Health Officer guidelines.
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