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There are as many or more intelligent people who think the opposite.

As far as people keeping a secret, it doesn't matter. We don't live in the Information Age as much as the Disinformation Age. There is such a wealth of information available that all it does is serve to confuse. Add to this the fact that wide sectors of the Media including the internet are owned by Globalist SOB's who supress info they don't want known and you have a situation where few of us know anything. Just speculation.

Spot on. Lunacy rules the day here as usual.
If any of our aged parents (with any comorbidity at all) get this they will be lucky to survive.
These same folks shake off the average flu every Winter.

My niece's husband is working in NYC in triage and it's horrific.

This is the fallacy the gentleman is trying to point out. One can only calculate lethality if one knows the number of people infected. If you test only those with extreme symptoms then guess what? Your lethality number will be artificially raised due to so many out in the population who didn’t have the extreme symptoms and therefore didn’t get tested.

His point is not that this isn’t such a big deal and everyone is over reacting it’s that we don’t know and can’t know even tho many in the media and government say otherwise.

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Exactly.

I initially thought so, too, but then scientific reports like this one from the journal Nature started coming out:

The COVID-19 coronavirus epidemic has a natural origin, scientists say

It's more likely that COVID-19 is the outcome of people eating bats and armadillo-like animals than the ingenious creation of Chinese microbiologists.

We'll never know how many people have had this virus and fought it off without developing serious symptoms......just like we'll never know how many did the same with the flu.
My money's on this new virus being much deadlier than the flu. Follow the science.

Less lethal than the flu?

That's easy, the 6.5 Creedmoor.

We'll know if we do widespread anti-body testing.

The CDC figures that there have been between 38 and 54 millions cases of the flu this season, starting Oct. 1. That's a 40% variation, all from guesses as to how many unreported cases there have been. I'm guessing that the CV19 ccounts have at least that much variation. They estimate between 24,000 and 62,000 deaths, a huge variation. Taking the midpoints of those estimates gets a .09% death rate but the variations are so large that any percentage estimation is meaningless.

That may not matter if everyone gets it eventually. IE end numbers of dead.

Regardless this is not a big deal, these things happen. World will go on. Tired of all the whining. Especially from those sitting home. I mean its not like you were told to learn how to run and shoot and then head out of a landing craft onto a beach far far away to die before you got to shore. Or to fight for 2 or 3 years only to die then....

Dr. Ralph Baric at UNC developed this same type chimera virus back in 2015 during "controversial" research soon banned - but permitted to continue. Claims it "could" occur naturally (cough, cough). Now with a staff of 30 working long hours to find the cure. Lost his recipe ? Bless his heart.

I think it's too early to say if covid 19 will turn out to be deadlier than the flu. Some things to keep in mind:

According to the CDC, through 3/21/20, the flu this season has afflicted 39 million Americans, put 400,000 in the hospital and killed 23,000. Probably a pretty big percentage of the hospitalized and dead are senior citizens with one or more comorbidities. This, in spite of the fact that we have herd immunity to the flu, plus flu vaccines and, I believe, some flu treatments.

What would the flu deaths be if we had no herd immunity, no vaccines and no treatments? With 39 million afflicted. Who knows, but I would be willing to bet that the number would be a hell of a lot higher than 23,000.

We currently have no herd immunity, no vaccines and, maybe, no treatments for covid 19. They are working with some malaria drugs, and hopefully they will work out. Because they haven't been exposed regularly most of their lives to covid 19 and can't get an annual covid 19 vaccine, senior citizens, especially those with health problems, are taking a real hit with covid 19. Interestingly, the flu seems to be more dangerous to younger people than covid 19. According to CDC, 155 pediatric patients have died from the flu this year.

We won't really be in a position to compare covid 19 to the flu until we build up a herd immunity and develop a vaccine. Once those two things happen, then we can make valid comparisons. Hopefully, after we develop herd immunity and can get vaccines, the covid 19 will turn out to be less deadly than the flu. Just my take on this.

Less lethal, more lethal, who knows? But eventually, lethality be damned, we are going to have to come out of our holes.

If you believe the worst case stories, as long as 1 person has it we face the potential of a pandemic from it.

No f.ucking s.hit. I’m tired of the damn whining too! Like these twenty year old folks needed another dam.n thing to WHINE about? 🤣😁

Then we'd have to do an equal amount of antibody testing for flu. Then compare the numbers.
Not likely to be done for either.
The point is we don't have a true sense of how many actual cases of flu we experience in any given year.

I’m not living in a damn hole much longer. Actually, this is pretty normal to me. I went to ACADEMY sports and Tractor Supply today. It was full of damn people. Is there really a lockdown? All the ammo and gun shelves were kinda empty especially the ammo. Oh yeah there was some social distancing waiting in line to pay. They even had to open another cashier station.

kind of tired of people using the term "lockdown", unless they really are not allowed to leave their homes.

We are FAR from locked-down here in Virginia. I am not that affected by it, don't ever stand in lines or go to crowded venues of ANY kind anyway. Church meetings, held online for now. working from home every-other day. Glad to have a job!

I think that there is still a long way to go before we actually know the hard facts of just how deadly this is. But I believe it is safe to say one thing..........those people who kept saying that it was no worse than a cold or the flu didn't have a frigging clue what they were talking about.

It's also too early to tell, but there is no doubt that our roaring economy is going to set back to a point from which it may not fully recover for years.

If it is ever proved that the damned Chinese were fully responsible for the spread of the corona virus, and I believe 100% they were, there needs to be some kind of a retaliation. They should not be allowed to get away with that they have done.

In most places they are not. Turn off the idiot box, it is filling your head full of poison, sewage, and misinformation.

I happen to be married to one of those health care workers, in one of the largest metro areas. So far, a big fat bupkis. They are sending health care workers home due to reduced demand, since all elective work is postponed and few patients want to be around THE GREAT FLIPPING PLAGUE!!!!!1111!!