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Funny how guys are concerned about budget but then want a magnum. They plan on shooting a box a year? yet want the power to shoot 800 yards. Never ending around here


All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
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He is a novice not an idiot. His main hunting partner a recently retired marine sniper has done all of the basic marksmanship training with rimfires & a heavy target 6.5 Creedmoor. Hard to give every relevant detail in a post. Some just assume I must be a macho idiot (partly true)

Neither has done any elk hunting & not much deer hunting. That was the purpose of asking an old fart like me for a recommendation- and the reason I’m asking you all.

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I suppose if a fella needs to work on his recoil tolerance he can just grab a surplus Mosin Nagant, leave the metal butt plate, buy a tin of 7.62X54R and shoot until it huts. Which won't take long, coincidentally.


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Remington 710 in 375 H&H. It’s the best for lions and stuff and is also great for deer and elks.

Make sure he gets a hi power scope with a big front end so he can track his game at night.


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Not hard to see that some folks may have been isolated just a little bit longer than they are comfortable with.... probably getting a little cranky myself.

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I'd recommend a Howa 1500 or a Weatherby Vanguard in the caliber range starting at 6.5mm Creedmoor and ending with the 300 Winchester magnum. My personal preference would be the 30-06 Springfield, but anything in that range will work. For optics I would recommend a Burris 3-9x40 Full Field II. That setup will serve him well as long as he wants to hunt.

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Over the years,I have known quite a few younger guys starting off buying one of the Savage Combos for about $300. Thinking in a few years to upgrade. The scopes are nothing to brag about but those " out of the box" Savages can sure shoot. Most guys I know still have them with only maybe upgraded scopes. 30-6 or .270 ammo is about the cheapest you will find,now maybe including 7-08


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It’s cheap and kicks like hell. Sounds like a great way to get someone into the sport

Glad I had better advice when I got started.


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Any 270 Win or 308 Win will take care 90%+ game on earth. Find the right loads from light to heavy use. Put a fixed 6x40 scope on it and you’re ready to go.

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Originally Posted by Gooch_McGrundle
I have a Ruger 77 MkII Stainless/synthetic 300 Win Mag in great condition I’d sell him for $500. I have had some shoulder problems and I just don’t enjoy shooting the magnums anymore. It will come with the scope rings as well.


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How did you start?

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[quote=Quak]It’s cheap and kicks like hell. Sounds like a great way to get someone into the sport

So you bought your first rifle at what age? You started hunting as an adult? You were a silver spoon kid Daddy bought you a new custom rifle? The 222 Remington was the newbie kids & women caliber in my Dad’s family it killed mule deer inside 100 yards fine but it wasn’t the grown up caliber.

This isn’t someone who hasn’t shot both rifles & shotguns for a while- he just wants to buy his own. Are you always this judgements?

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I was about 12 and shot a 30-06 I bought with my own money from farm work. That said - a flinch isn't relegated to a specific age or experience metric.


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That also said some smart people have pointed out this:

Most hunters are over scoped, over cartridged and under bulleted. Hint

If you need more than a 30-06, the 300 WM isn't the answer, step to 375H&H - anything in between really isn't "more than a 30-06".

Point being - 300WM doesn't give you ANYTHING the 30-06 doesn't at the ranges you're talking other than a much sharper kick in the shoulder and more expense when it comes time to buy ammo.

Owned both. BTDT.


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My first real rifle was a Ruger M77 chambered in 7mm Rem Mag. It was a gift from my Mom and I was eager to kill with it. Problem was, it kicked like a pissed off mule and I couldn't hit a damn thing with it. I was a new shooter, with not a lot of experience, but I still have no use for recoil today. After missing a few relatively easy shots with it, my Uncle handed me his 25/06. I killed the next buck I shot at and was hooked. A few months later, that same Uncle bought me a really nice Sako 25/06 and I've never gone back to the 7 despite nearly 30 years of owning it.

I have to agree with the others that 270, 308, 280 are all some really excellent options. You will shoot more and practice more if you enjoy shooting the rifle. That practice and experience will make you a better shooter and a better hunter. Just my $.02

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Tell him to buy a Vangaurd in 7mm Rem mag and practice,practice,practice.....


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Originally Posted by teal
I was about 12 and shot a 30-06 I bought with my own money from farm work. That said - a flinch isn't relegated to a specific age or experience metric.


I was asking Quak but heck Teal is a more specific duck. Good for you buying your own rifle with your own money at 12. Mine was Pizza Shop money at 17 a little slower but did have grandfathers 30-30 to use by 12. Sounds like you aren’t part of the millennial generation. Did you pick yours because it was what a mentor shot? Would you make the same choice in retrospect? Do you still have it?

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I was about 12 and shot a 30-06 I bought with my own money from farm work. That said - a flinch isn't relegated to a specific age or experience metric.


I was asking Quak but heck Teal is a more specific duck. Good for you buying your own rifle with your own money at 12. Mine was Pizza Shop money at 17 a little slower but did have grandfathers 30-30 to use by 12. Sounds like you aren’t part of the millennial generation. Did you pick yours because it was what a mentor shot? Would you make the same choice in retrospect? Do you still have it?


I picked it because it was on sale and I could afford it. Ruger M77 tanger. 364 bucks or so. 30-06 was known to everyone to being everything you need, regardless. Even in the '89. My dad was primarily a bowhunter and his rifle was a Savage M1899 in 30/30 he got from his grandfather. No one influenced me really other than what I learned on my own from magazines and a reloading manual I found at the library.

I no longer have it - sold it when I became a father too young. Needed to provide. Perfect world I would have been older when I had my son but he's 20 now, and I'm in my early 40's so I can still do great things with my adult children. Not like some of my friends whose parents were in their 60's when they graduated high school. Hell, my dad's mid 60's - 3 generations that can still hunt together where it requires some physical exertion.


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Originally Posted by teal
That also said some smart people have pointed out this:

Most hunters are over scoped, over cartridged and under bulleted. Hint

If you need more than a 30-06, the 300 WM isn't the answer, step to 375H&H - anything in between really isn't "more than a 30-06".

Point being - 300WM doesn't give you ANYTHING the 30-06 doesn't at the ranges you're talking other than a much sharper kick in the shoulder and more expense when it comes time to buy ammo.

Owned both. BTDT.


This has always been my way of thinking and the reason I have no use for a 300 WM. 30-06 will easily handle any animal that won't hunt you back. If I ever get the chance to hunt something that might hunt me back, I want something a lot larger than a 300 WM in my hands. A 35 Whelen or 375 H&H seems like a much more reasonable step up from a 30-06 in that situation.


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