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Originally Posted by SuperCub
Originally Posted by lastround
What I think is that China designed this virus and released it on the world to accomplish exactly what it has done: create panic and destroy the world economy. China doesn’t like having to deal with Trump, and figures this chaos will help get him out of office. The Dems and MSM are playing right along.

Indeed. The Australians are thinking the same.

https://www.ft.com/content/fda7e3cf-a605-4697-9bc0-6fe91b739eb9



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Why is everyone surprised that China lied? Is anyone surprised when a rattlesnake strikes? - It's what they do.

China certainly did try to contain the Corona Virus and help its' people; they locked down the population in a way that Americans would not tolerate and they treated all that they could. Unfortunately, in a desire to manufacture goods as cheaply as possible (think of all the stuff Walmart and others sell and we buy), the manufacture of medical protective equipment and ventilators has largely shifted to China. And, in the time of their emergency, China diverted these goods to help fill their needs. No surprise there!

China is a very secretive and insular society and they are paranoid in their protection of the government and its' image - no bad news. So they certainly concealed the facts and the health implications from the outside world.

But, US and world-wide health officials knew in December that the Corona Virus existed and that a pandemic was possible. US diplomats and returning tourists reported that there was a massive effort underway to treat people and contain the virus in the City of Wuhan (see: https://www.healthline.com/health-news/coronavirus-live-updates ). The Obama Administration had established a small monitoring group to monitor potential pandemics following the experiences from the SARs outbreak in 2003. (see: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3329048/ )

This task force was expanded to about 200 Federal employees (with additional expert resources available) when the H1N1 virus emerged in 2009. (see: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html )

In 2017, the outgoing Obama Administration briefed the incoming Trump Administration on pandemics and the global (and US) implications. (see: https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...through-global-pandemic-exercise-in-2017 ). It appears that the Administration disbanded the pandemic-monitoring group and we were asleep-at-the-wheel! The President downplayed the threat and critical time (8 weeks?) was lost.

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Originally Posted by lastround
What I think is that China designed this virus and released it on the world to accomplish exactly what it has done: create panic and destroy the world economy. China doesn’t like having to deal with Trump, and figures this chaos will help get him out of office. The Dems and MSM are playing right along.


Chinese released the virus to hurt their people and economy and to weaken or destroy the ones that owe them most money? That makes no sense.

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Originally Posted by djs
Why is everyone surprised that China lied? Is anyone surprised when a rattlesnake strikes? - It's what they do.

China certainly did try to contain the Corona Virus and help its' people; they locked down the population in a way that Americans would not tolerate and they treated all that they could. Unfortunately, in a desire to manufacture goods as cheaply as possible (think of all the stuff Walmart and others sell and we buy), the manufacture of medical protective equipment and ventilators has largely shifted to China. And, in the time of their emergency, China diverted these goods to help fill their needs. No surprise there!

China is a very secretive and insular society and they are paranoid in their protection of the government and its' image - no bad news. So they certainly concealed the facts and the health implications from the outside world.

But, US and world-wide health officials knew in December that the Corona Virus existed and that a pandemic was possible. US diplomats and returning tourists reported that there was a massive effort underway to treat people and contain the virus in the City of Wuhan (see: https://www.healthline.com/health-news/coronavirus-live-updates ). The Obama Administration had established a small monitoring group to monitor potential pandemics following the experiences from the SARs outbreak in 2003. (see: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3329048/ )

This task force was expanded to about 200 Federal employees (with additional expert resources available) when the H1N1 virus emerged in 2009. (see: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html )

In 2017, the outgoing Obama Administration briefed the incoming Trump Administration on pandemics and the global (and US) implications. (see: https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...through-global-pandemic-exercise-in-2017 ). It appears that the Administration disbanded the pandemic-monitoring group and we were asleep-at-the-wheel! The President downplayed the threat and critical time (8 weeks?) was lost.



Where are all the respirators , masks and medical supplies Obama left us for this future event ???????????????????. Trump was called a racist because he shut down travel between China ...FACT. WHO said the disease was not communicable between 2 people FACT. US Drs were not allowed to travel to China to investigate FACT


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Originally Posted by Slavek
Originally Posted by lastround
What I think is that China designed this virus and released it on the world to accomplish exactly what it has done: create panic and destroy the world economy. China doesn’t like having to deal with Trump, and figures this chaos will help get him out of office. The Dems and MSM are playing right along.


Chinese released the virus to hurt their people and economy and to weaken or destroy the ones that owe them most money? That makes no sense.



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Do you really think that China gives a schitt about her own people? They’ve got more people than they can feed and would not hesitate to use a virus to reduce the population. And then try to blame the U.S. which they have already done. And this is not the people of China who is responsible. We are talking about corrupt, communist [bleep] leaders who want China to be the most powerful country in the world even if it means destroying the economy of other debtor nations. Makes no sense? Wait and see!


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China is such a great country.......


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Good Ol Communist China....anyone who believes anything a commie says is ripe for the picking! Mother Nature is Harsh!

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Pretty simple actually. China lied and people died.


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Communist countries hiding mass deaths.......................so, what else is new?

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Originally Posted by SuperCub
Originally Posted by lastround
What I think is that China designed this virus and released it on the world to accomplish exactly what it has done: create panic and destroy the world economy. China doesn’t like having to deal with Trump, and figures this chaos will help get him out of office. The Dems and MSM are playing right along.

Indeed. The Australians are thinking the same.

https://www.ft.com/content/fda7e3cf-a605-4697-9bc0-6fe91b739eb9
wish I could read this without paying. Can you copy and paste it?

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