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I’m spoiled to the slide release. Both of my semis have the release and it’s natural.
That’s not counting my Ruger Mk II, SS 22. It’s in a different use category to me.
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Im still worried about them videos. Are where are Them videos of the bullet tests
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For me it's most important function is as a slide stop. To clear the gun you drop the mag, lock the slide to the rear, visually and digitally check the magwell and chamber for clear. On the reload I prefer to use it as a slide release but w/ my small hands I am also comfortable with releasing the slide w/ an overhand grip. I have stair tape on the top and sides of my slide to add friction. Using it as a slide release is faster but being comfortable w/ all methods is sensible.
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I use it as a slide release on all of my pistols that have one.
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I have usually used the release. However a friend in Texas that works at a range advises to use the slingshot method on Glocks especially. He has seen broken ones and replaced the slide releases on a couple. He is even a Glock fan.
Now on my G44 I found that using the release will cause it not to feed, so I use the slingshot method.
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Pressing down on the slide stop of Glocks will impart wear to them as the slide has a sharp edge (steel) and the slide stop is aluminum.
Best method is to replace magazine is to pull slide slightly to the rear and release. If you need to lower the slide on an empty chamber, remove magazine, pull slide to rear slightly and then depress the slide stop while allowing the slide to come forward.
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Pressing down on the slide stop of Glocks will impart wear to them as the slide has a sharp edge (steel) and the slide stop is aluminum.
Best method is to replace magazine is to pull slide slightly to the rear and release. If you need to lower the slide on an empty chamber, remove magazine, pull slide to rear slightly and then depress the slide stop while allowing the slide to come forward. ????? says who? mike r
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I have usually used the release. However a friend in Texas that works at a range advises to use the slingshot method on Glocks especially. He has seen broken ones and replaced the slide releases on a couple. He is even a Glock fan.
Now on my G44 I found that using the release will cause it not to feed, so I use the slingshot method. I noticed on the MAC review he was told the same thing about the 44. I have a feeling it allows a shell that is not sitting quite right in the magazine to pop in place and feed better. The last 3 rounds of those mags are crucial to letting the gun work correctly. Just something to think about.
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I do whatever the manual says to, unless that doesn't work well. AL-U-minny-um is a poor choice of material for either, IMO.
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Pressing down on the slide stop of Glocks will impart wear to them as the slide has a sharp edge (steel) and the slide stop is aluminum.. I'm not trying to be combative; I just want to sort out the accuracy of that information: I've seen this type of advice/caution passed around on the internet for 10+ years but I have never seen or even heard about a Glock slide stop lever getting worn out due to using it by simply pressing down on it to release the slide. I can't say how many mag changes I have on my extended slide stop lever (can't recall exactly when I installed it), but it's enough that I'd notice some wear by now if it was going to happen. Additionally, as I sit in my chair in the evenings, I typically practice mag changes for a couple minutes as I dry fire. I use the slide stop lever then, also without babying the slide. I just inspected my slide stop lever, and the black finish is worn off, but the metal itself appears undamaged. Here are the pics from 2 minutes ago: ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/B09iuPF.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/9JaV1tW.jpg) I suppose if/when it does wear out, I'll spend the $10 and get a new one.
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Pressing down on the slide stop of Glocks will impart wear to them as the slide has a sharp edge (steel) and the slide stop is aluminum.
Best method is to replace magazine is to pull slide slightly to the rear and release. If you need to lower the slide on an empty chamber, remove magazine, pull slide to rear slightly and then depress the slide stop while allowing the slide to come forward. The slide stop is aluminum?
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And the slide doesn't slam when the pistol is functioning properly? I don't drop the slide on an empty chamber, but when I'm shooting, I don't do that with an empty magazine, either. Wasn’t an implication. I was just being goofy.
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Not sure if this will stir up the same controversy as hot/cold carry or, God forbid, blue tape vs. all other colors, but should a semi-auto pistol have a slide release or just a slide lock?
In the opinion of myself, God and John Moses (not necessarily in that order), a pistol should have a slide release. I will make exception for the tiniest pocket pistols but a real combat oriented pistol needs to have something that can feed a round from a fresh magazine with the use of only one hand. Never mind that it generally takes two hands to load a fresh magazine, but once done, you should not have to slingshot the pistol to load it. If you want to, that's fine, but you shouldn't have to.
Being left handed, this is a nit pick which has just about turned into a deal breaker for me on the S&W M&P. Their manual tells you to slingshot the slide, that the slide lock is not what that miniscule stamped metal part is for. The ambidextrous slide lock/release (gender confused, perhaps) will work to release the slide, at least that one on the left side of the pistol will but the one on the right side is apparently there for ornamental purposes only since it is nigh impossible to depress unless you have the finger strength of a teenage boy with a free PornHub account. And even that little nub of a thingamajig on the left is not the easiest thing to manipulate.
Which is frustrating because I like everything else about the M&P 2.0. My two examples are nicely accurate, the extra grips allow one to customize it to fit, and the trigger is very good - after some take up it breaks almost as nicely as a good SA trigger. You can even switch the magazine release to the opposite side, which I have done. But it is almost impossible to release the %^*#@! slide with the left thumb! Arrrgh.
A Glock Gen 5 has a nice ambi slide release, the one on the Sig P320 is better. And even on those antique 1911's and Beretta 92/M9's, the slide release on the left side only is an extended piece that positions itself under the thumb (or my index finger) and allows good leverage to easily release the slide. Even the little Sig P365 has a fully functional left side slide release.
So, on a semi-auto pistol do you call it a slide lock only or do you agree with God and JMB that it should also serve as a slide release? All comments are welcome, I want to keep a completely open mind and not try to influence anyone here...
Agree with you, God, and John Moses. Slide release. Left handed here, too. So, I understand exactly what you're talkin about.
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Does it have the contact point textured on the bottom or the top? If the top, then slide release. I saw what you did there.. Good one. 
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I've read the posts and they are very interesting. I use both methods and feel everyone should be able to. Mostly I use it as a slide stop, but for a different reason...maybe. Beside the fact that I can't reach most of them easily, without an extended one, is old age and arthritis makes it difficult to work most of them. Not being a high speed low drag kinda guy, I use whatever works. I still shoot bowling pin and use the slingshot method as I can use my whole hand and don't have to change my grip, which I feel important. It might be a tad slower on the reload, but I'm faster on back target.
I do use it as a slide release at times and I'm glad that the choice is there. As people age you adapt and change to stay in the game.
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Slide lock or slide release? No question about it - the lever you push with a finger or thumb is a slide release. If a shooter was determined to forever sling shot the slide he could file off the lever and the slide lock would remain.
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If one of the Illuminated Illuminati was going to do a bullet test with their semi auto would they use the slide stop/release or would they slingshot release the slide when they started their barrage of firing as they fling bullets at said animal?
After firing with the sound of a machine gun ripping off rounds a reload would be needed.
Then after an autopsy maybe there would be some bullets shown and critiqued.
Unless the animal was shot with a 9MM the Magnificent Farce then there would be no animal left after one shot. It would be vaporized.
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Hmm
so is it a magazine release or a magazine lock
or safety release or a safety lock
was taught at Gunsight that the slingshot method was an Israeli thing. because they didn't have enough of the same types of guns to distribute, and had to use so many different types, that the "slingshot" worked for all.
also don't shoot dry, thats what a tactical reload was for. saving the mag, of course for later and consolidation.
loading mag, loading done with slide forward, hand over slide and "cycle" a round in feeling for lock up, reducing noise, and reasserting if necessary with a "press-check" or a "john wick" one handed press check depending on what the other hand was doing at the time.
If for some reason the slide was locked back (mostly 1911s) never drop the slide without holding the trigger back, to disconnect the sear, so as not to ruin a good trigger job.
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If for some reason the slide was locked back (mostly 1911s) never drop the slide without holding the trigger back, to disconnect the sear, so as not to ruin a good trigger job. That's crazy.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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also don't shoot dry, thats what a tactical reload was for. saving the mag, of course for later and consolidation.
I sorta struggle with this and simply saying - I don't know here but why would I ever remove a magazine that's definitely working and feeding ammo and replace it for one I don't know for sure will? Now - I get it, test before needed under duress and all that but it's still a bit of an unknown what may or may not have happened to that magazine between "life is good" and "holy chit - I need to return fire" - did you fall down, roll around, get mud/dirt in there etc. Did something happen since the last time you used that mag? How long ago was that? I don't know - just something I wonder about.
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