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Self employed pay 100% of their F.I.C.A. withholdings.

I'm not playing with language, you idiots are. You are the ones claiming Social Security is not an entitlement program. You people lie that SSI is and SSA is not. You refuse to accept responsibility for your actions because you only voted for representatives who voted you bread and circuses and stuck us with the bill.

But both I and the SSA see you for what you are no matter how much you lie.

I'm quite happy to support you. I'd rather that than have to step over you on a sidewalk on my way to work.But I'm not going to pretend along with you.

One more example of .gov disconnect ...

It seems to me you sound angry...or maybe just frustrated? Who isn't?

First, calling the SSA will get you no where. You know that. It will take forever to get through the automated system. If you endure the wait and run-around, you might get a representative at the National Call Center. They can do nothing but read "talking points."

Second, DEMAND something from SSA over the phone??? All I can say is "don't be stupid."

Third, you ask a rhetorical question. Here is your answer. No, the money I paid into SS is not the money I am drawing. The money I paid into the Social Security Trust Fund went to pay SS benefits for those who were currently receiving SS payments.

The system was structured with the illusion of fairness.

During my working career, I paid the benefit for those already retired.

I then entrusted reciprocity to the system; in that, when I reached retirement, those currently working would pay for my benefit.

SSA is big and all encompassing. It now lives and breaths on its own. It may collapse under its own weight---but it is beyond repair in my estimation. There is not the political or social will to do much about it.

We are being told by our accountant that the way they interpret it as written, neither of my boys 22 yrs old (in college and working 30-35 hrs a week) or 19 yrs old, currently working full time will get anything. Not even the $500, so we will see. Luckily both are still employed and working.

You think too much of your own opinion. And, you seem to assign to yourself foreknowledge into the thoughts, intents, and actions of others. Then, based of that false assumption, you stereotype a large group of people. I ask you, who is pretending? Who is delusional? Who is lying - to themselves?

For the record, I never once voted for anyone - local or national - based on what they would or would not do with the SSA.

Thank you sir. Been paying into it for 50 plus years also .

Been paying into it for 50 plus years. I would like to get my share. NOT an Entitlement.

The problem is in the misinterpretation of the meaning of the word, "Entitlement"...


From your posted link:

Of course it is an entitlement you lying boomers.

Changing the definition of words to fit an argument is the oldest liberalist trick in the book you confused liberalist boomers. You have somehow come to believe it it doesn't mean what it means.

Don't worry, the productive among us will continue to work even as you delude yourselves, so the entitlement that lets you buy your McDonalds fried pies isn't going to dry up any time soon.

Stickfight ask "How about this: are the actual dollars you paid in the same dollars being sent back to you?"


I would hope the hell not, the same as buying a $10,000 CD & cashing it in 40 years later.


Oh, & BTW, the word "boomer" seems to be a favorite of whining assed liberals that are continuously looking for someone to blame. Does the shoe fit?

The entitlement shoe fits the boomer perfectly, even though he pretends he isn't wearing it.



But you didn't buy a CD, did you? You could have, but you chose an entitlement program instead. Which was the whole point behind SS from the start.

Wow! You really can't help yourself. You are insulting, condescending, and disrespectful.

You made joken2's point. Don't you, in all of your wisdom, foresight, and foreknowledge...see and know that?

I choose to think better or you. I'll put it down as "misdirected frustration."

Honestly; I hope you and your's are not negatively impacted by current events.

GB

Backing out Guys.

The thread has run its course. And, as typical with the Fire...ran right into the ground.

Life is to short for such nonsense.

Thank you joken2 for the original post. Good information. I had not been following the story.

I wish you all wellness, and that we all get through this with our liberties, and civilities in tact.

GB

I know this for sure, every year I get a statement from my employer listing the cost of my benefits for the year.

The actual cost of having me as an employee added onto the cost of my wage package includes time lost to vacation, sick leave, funeral leave, jury leave, cost of medical insurance, 401 K matching funds, and yes my employer's portion of SS payments.

To believe that any less than 13% of your pay is being deducted for Social Security is pure foolishness. Were it not going into .gov coffers our paychecks could be increased by that 6.5% the employer pays.

But us "Boomers" had no choice. That 13% has been forcibly confiscated by the government for forty five years. Who here could not have invested it to pay far better than any returns we will ever see from SS?

They have been stealing it away from me and robbing me of investment opportunities since 1974. By God, yes I am ENTITLED to get at least the small amount back allowed by current SS rules.

You obviously don't know any social security recipients living on < $1500/month.

Thank You G.B.!!!

Yeah.

I AM entitled to some of the money I paid over 57 years, money that helped your parents and grandparents while I was young and working hard.

We didn't chose paying SS taxes, you ignorant puke.

Call it what you want! But don't tell people how they voted! Doing so proves ignorance. I never voted for any give away program! And wasnt around when social security started! Quit being a dick, for the sake of being a dick! GFY