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Is this thing workable or are you buying a darwin possible hand grenade?

What are people's thoughts?


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There is such a concept as "too much of a good thing". ....but to each his own.

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Bottom line, ......if you want this for bear protection, ..."can you recover quickly enough for a second shot"?
I've packed an FA in .454 for 30 years and mine has worked, with 3 Magna-Port slots, I can recover, but I've fired at least 100,000 rounds of .44, so what's left of recoil doesn't bother me!
If you want it for "braggin' rights", that's okay.
But like dangerous game rifles, you gotta be able to recover for second and third shots, .........anything else, ....well, file the front sight off and coat it with Vaseline!!!


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Novelty gun. I don't understand how this is even possible:

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Keep in mind this revolver produces 12% more power that the top 50 Alaskan loads!!!


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Here you can see a guy, probably the guy behind this revolver, shooting similar handcannons in "458 African", "475 Nitro Express" and 50 Alaskan. The first two in quotes because the names are misleading (first is actually deep-seated 458 Win Mag and second is made from 45-90 brass, far shorter than a classic 475 Nitro).

Nearing 3000 ft lbs from the 50 Alaskan.


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I ain't shooting it, I fight with a flinch from time to time anyway. That could probably induce it for life.


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He shot those pretty well, about as steady as I am, which is fairly shaky. I stop at heavy 45 Colt loads, the Casull and 45-70 pistols are too much for me on any regular basis.


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Originally Posted by Tejano
He shot those pretty well, about as steady as I am, which is fairly shaky. I stop at heavy 45 Colt loads, the Casull and 45-70 pistols are too much for me on any regular basis.


Yep heavy 45 colt is where I call it quits

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BFR, is a quality handgun. I've had 4 of them (all handgun cartridges) and they are a quality gun for sure. Very accurate is my experience.


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I have numerous BFRs and have used them on all manner of game including Cape buffalo. They are a high quality handgun. That said, I had an old D-Max, the predecessor of the current long-framed BFR in .50 Alaskan, and it was a bit less than controllable.


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Originally Posted by Whitworth1
That said, I had an old D-Max, the predecessor of the current long-framed BFR in .50 Alaskan, and it was a bit less than controllable.


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I ran out and got a .500 S&W right after they hit the market, "just because." Although a fine piece of machinery and fun (up to a point) to shoot, it is a gun of somewhat limited utility. I don't think I'd get very excited over the prospect of shooting a revolver with more horsepower yet.


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To each his own, but my brief foray into the world of hand-rifles (to me, these things qualify) left me less than enchanted. I carried a mere scoped 12" Encore .44 for a good bit of one season and found it awkward and ungainly, even in a scabbard holster. The BFR and similar big revolvers don't even give you the option of supporting the front end except with sticks. A Redhawk is about as much as I'd want to tote now, and a 6" Smith better. I'm building a stubby Contender carbine for hunting in tight spots.


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i own and tried a 6inch 460 S.W. to big to carry,i have a Ruger 3inch 454 casull recoil is nasty, i have a 4 inch Taurus 44 mag that`s ported ,shoots great,has recoil i can handle easy and carries easy, so its my carry pistol of choice in bear country. those bigger cartridge pistols may be fun and kinda neat to shoot but for me i just want easy with less recoil and ammo that i can buy easy that`s why i like the 44mag.


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
To each his own, but my brief foray into the world of hand-rifles (to me, these things qualify) left me less than enchanted. I carried a mere scoped 12" Encore .44 for a good bit of one season and found it awkward and ungainly, even in a scabbard holster. The BFR and similar big revolvers don't even give you the option of supporting the front end except with sticks. A Redhawk is about as much as I'd want to tote now, and a 6" Smith better. I'm building a stubby Contender carbine for hunting in tight spots.


I have three of the long-framed BFRs with 7.5-inch barrels and I have to respectfully disagree. They can be shot well offhand as they balance quite well. I wouldn’t use the long-framed revolvers as dedicated protection pieces, but they can be used for this function. Like any firearm you choose to carry, you have to practice enough to be proficient.


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Originally Posted by Whitworth1
I have numerous BFRs and have used them on all manner of game including Cape buffalo. They are a high quality handgun. That said, I had an old D-Max, the predecessor of the current long-framed BFR in .50 Alaskan,

***and it was a bit less than controllable.***


hahaha, I'd guess so. NOT making fun of ya.


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Originally Posted by Whitworth1

Originally Posted by Pappy348
To each his own, but my brief foray into the world of hand-rifles (to me, these things qualify) left me less than enchanted. I carried a mere scoped 12" Encore .44 for a good bit of one season and found it awkward and ungainly, even in a scabbard holster. The BFR and similar big revolvers don't even give you the option of supporting the front end except with sticks. A Redhawk is about as much as I'd want to tote now, and a 6" Smith better. I'm building a stubby Contender carbine for hunting in tight spots.


I have three of the long-framed BFRs with 7.5-inch barrels and I have to respectfully disagree. They can be shot well offhand as they balance quite well. I wouldn’t use the long-framed revolvers as dedicated protection pieces, but they can be used for this function. Like any firearm you choose to carry, you have to practice enough to be proficient.


No need to be respectful; I don't think I've ever seen a BFR in person, let alone handled one, but having owned and toted not only the Encore, but also a scoped Redhawk and a Super Redhawk, along with some Blackhawks of varying sizes, I'm pretty sure it exceeds my form factor preferences for hunting. Another point is that rounds like .357, .41, .44 Mag, and .45 Colt are plenty for the deer I hunt, so there's no need for anything larger. You clearly like 'em, so enjoy!

I agree the BFR, or really any SA is not ideal for protection, especially against bears. When people talk about carrying something like a Super Blackhawk for bear protection, I always wonder how they plan to draw, cock, and fire while under hundreds of pounds of stinky bear.


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
Originally Posted by Whitworth1

Originally Posted by Pappy348
To each his own, but my brief foray into the world of hand-rifles (to me, these things qualify) left me less than enchanted. I carried a mere scoped 12" Encore .44 for a good bit of one season and found it awkward and ungainly, even in a scabbard holster. The BFR and similar big revolvers don't even give you the option of supporting the front end except with sticks. A Redhawk is about as much as I'd want to tote now, and a 6" Smith better. I'm building a stubby Contender carbine for hunting in tight spots.


I have three of the long-framed BFRs with 7.5-inch barrels and I have to respectfully disagree. They can be shot well offhand as they balance quite well. I wouldn’t use the long-framed revolvers as dedicated protection pieces, but they can be used for this function. Like any firearm you choose to carry, you have to practice enough to be proficient.


No need to be respectful; I don't think I've ever seen a BFR in person, let alone handled one, but having owned and toted not only the Encore, but also a scoped Redhawk and a Super Redhawk, along with some Blackhawks of varying sizes, I'm pretty sure it exceeds my form factor preferences for hunting. Another point is that rounds like .357, .41, .44 Mag, and .45 Colt are plenty for the deer I hunt, so there's no need for anything larger. You clearly like 'em, so enjoy!

I agree the BFR, or really any SA is not ideal for protection, especially against bears. When people talk about carrying something like a Super Blackhawk for bear protection, I always wonder how they plan to draw, cock, and fire while under hundreds of pounds of stinky bear.


As Max Prasac said, you have to practice enough to be proficient! Handguns are not easily mastered, and lots of practice, whether dry firing, offhand shooting, practice from rests, or whatever, is required. Doing this is how one plans to draw, cock, and fire, quickly and accurately. If you just carry your handgun around, you are not developing any level of proficiency with it. As far as not being ideal for protection- the big bore calibers, such as the .45's with heavy hardcast bullets, .475, .480 Ruger, and the various .500's, have taken the biggest game on the planet.

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Originally Posted by Pappy348
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Originally Posted by Pappy348
To each his own, but my brief foray into the world of hand-rifles (to me, these things qualify) left me less than enchanted. I carried a mere scoped 12" Encore .44 for a good bit of one season and found it awkward and ungainly, even in a scabbard holster. The BFR and similar big revolvers don't even give you the option of supporting the front end except with sticks. A Redhawk is about as much as I'd want to tote now, and a 6" Smith better. I'm building a stubby Contender carbine for hunting in tight spots.


I have three of the long-framed BFRs with 7.5-inch barrels and I have to respectfully disagree. They can be shot well offhand as they balance quite well. I wouldn’t use the long-framed revolvers as dedicated protection pieces, but they can be used for this function. Like any firearm you choose to carry, you have to practice enough to be proficient.


No need to be respectful; I don't think I've ever seen a BFR in person, let alone handled one, but having owned and toted not only the Encore, but also a scoped Redhawk and a Super Redhawk, along with some Blackhawks of varying sizes, I'm pretty sure it exceeds my form factor preferences for hunting. Another point is that rounds like .357, .41, .44 Mag, and .45 Colt are plenty for the deer I hunt, so there's no need for anything larger. You clearly like 'em, so enjoy!

I agree the BFR, or really any SA is not ideal for protection, especially against bears. When people talk about carrying something like a Super Blackhawk for bear protection, I always wonder how they plan to draw, cock, and fire while under hundreds of pounds of stinky bear.




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