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Originally Posted by local_dirt
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Yeah, let's not do anything to try and reduce scamming.
As far as I'm concerned, if they receive Social Security payments and don't file tax returns, they can go through that small amount of hassle.



You obviously don't know any social security recipients living on < $1500/month.


My mother in law. I buy her groceries, take her to appointments, pay bills, etc.

Because that’s what families do.

Gov has, whether by design or stupidity, eroded this sense of obligation with its “safety nets”. FDR was brilliant in this regard. Johnson even more so.

Over my lifetime (born 1975) I’ve observed that neither of the two parties cares one lick for making the tough choices necessary to keep our society running as the FFs intended.

Mark’s point stands; people who are in need of our grand- and great-grandchildren’s money offered so easily by the hacks in DC ought to expect to have to prove something to get it. There is nothing wrong with that.

This thread turned into a discussion of SS when it was started about the COVID19 relief bill.

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Originally Posted by luv2safari
I AM entitled to some of the money I paid over 57 years


You are entitled to a benefit because you paid in and meet the other qualifications, that is why the SSA and I and everyone else who isn't lying or ignorant call it an entitlement program.

But your money that you paid in is already spent, as you note.

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Wow! You really can't help yourself.


Yes, I remain committed to stating facts regardless of who's feeling they hurt, even entitled sniveling boomers playing pretend.

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Originally Posted by Heym06
Call it what you want


I'm calling it what it is, it is the people who say it isn't an entitlement program who are calling it what they want. If stating facts is being a dick I am a dick all day every day.

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Originally Posted by Stickfight
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I AM entitled to some of the money I paid over 57 years


You are entitled to a benefit because you paid in and meet the other qualifications, that is why the SSA and I and everyone else who isn't lying or ignorant call it an entitlement program.

But your money that you paid in is already spent, as you note.


Better hit the want adds for a second job I'm about to start suckling that big ole SS tittie here soon myself.


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Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by Heym06
Call it what you want


I'm calling it what it is, it is the people who say it isn't an entitlement program who are calling it what they want. If stating facts is being a dick I am a dick all day every day.

It shows you have practice being a dick. When you reach SS age dont accept yours! Ill bet you a swift kick in the ass, you take yours and spend every dime! Playing the I'm better than you card, because of anothers age is totally stupid! As far as using the word boomer, shows you are a narrow minded, bigot who thinks you age makes you better! Remember if a boomer didnt do something good, you or your parents would just have been a stain on a sheet! Now GFY again, jerk off!

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Originally Posted by Heym06
When you reach SS age dont accept yours!


Unless COVID kills off boomers here in the US like it has elsewhere SS will be insolvent long before I retire. My financial planning assumes that it won't be an income source for me.

Again, I'm just playing the Facts card by calling SS exactly what it is: an entitlement. Of course doing that brings butthurt boomers to the thread as fast as their walkers allow, 100 times out of 100. It is like a cruise ship boarding horn.

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Now your acting like most of us boomers. Most didnt think we would have SS. So we planned on living without SS. Thinking you can read the future is foolish! If you have invested in the market, gold, silver, real estate and bonds/ mutual funds, your control is minimal. You are at the whim of the billionaires! As far as using the word boomer to describe people you have no respect for, shows just how little you know! And perpetuates divide. Those that seek to divide, are usually those that believe in big central government! That equates to socialism , is that your plan for your future.

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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by m_stevenson
Yeah, let's not do anything to try and reduce scamming.
As far as I'm concerned, if they receive Social Security payments and don't file tax returns, they can go through that small amount of hassle.



You obviously don't know any social security recipients living on < $1500/month.

You are jumping to conclusions if you think that.
I stand by my opinion. If you are receiving SS benefits and don't file taxes, you need to prove you are who you are and that you are entitled to those benefits.
Besides, WTF does living on $1500 a month have to do with this? Please explain in English.


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Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by m_stevenson
Yeah, let's not do anything to try and reduce scamming.
As far as I'm concerned, if they receive Social Security payments and don't file tax returns, they can go through that small amount of hassle.



You obviously don't know any social security recipients living on < $1500/month.


My mother in law. I buy her groceries, take her to appointments, pay bills, etc.

Because that’s what families do.

Gov has, whether by design or stupidity, eroded this sense of obligation with its “safety nets”. FDR was brilliant in this regard. Johnson even more so.

Over my lifetime (born 1975) I’ve observed that neither of the two parties cares one lick for making the tough choices necessary to keep our society running as the FFs intended.

Mark’s point stands; people who are in need of our grand- and great-grandchildren’s money offered so easily by the hacks in DC ought to expect to have to prove something to get it. There is nothing wrong with that.

This thread turned into a discussion of SS when it was started about the COVID19 relief bill.




And you obviously didn't read or possibly understand my reply to your post, which had nothing to do with what you last rambled about.

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Originally Posted by m_stevenson
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by m_stevenson
Yeah, let's not do anything to try and reduce scamming.
As far as I'm concerned, if they receive Social Security payments and don't file tax returns, they can go through that small amount of hassle.



You obviously don't know any social security recipients living on < $1500/month.

You are jumping to conclusions if you think that.
I stand by my opinion. If you are receiving SS benefits and don't file taxes, you need to prove you are who you are and that you are entitled to those benefits.
Besides, WTF does living on $1500 a month have to do with this? Please explain in English.




You don't get it, and I'm not going to waste my time to explain it to you.

People living on < $1,500 a month have more important things to do and be concerned about than jump through any extra paperwork hoops you think are necessary. They're too busy trying to figure out where the next meal is coming from.

There is no "recertification" for Social Security.


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Originally Posted by local_dirt


And you obviously didn't read or possibly understand my reply to your post, which had nothing to do with what you last rambled about.

But, Rock On.


Boy I guess I needed to spell it out more explicitly.

My mother in law relies only on her SS which is <$1500/month.

I’d thought I’d give you the benefit of the doubt but “rock on.”

Or the amount of money we’re talking about they can do it or not get the money.

Your “logic” reminds me of those who act as tho showing legal ID to vote is some insurmountable obstacle.

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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by m_stevenson
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by m_stevenson
Yeah, let's not do anything to try and reduce scamming.
As far as I'm concerned, if they receive Social Security payments and don't file tax returns, they can go through that small amount of hassle.



You obviously don't know any social security recipients living on < $1500/month.

You are jumping to conclusions if you think that.
I stand by my opinion. If you are receiving SS benefits and don't file taxes, you need to prove you are who you are and that you are entitled to those benefits.
Besides, WTF does living on $1500 a month have to do with this? Please explain in English.




You don't get it, and I'm not going to waste my time to explain it to you.

People living on < $1,500 a month have more important things to do and be concerned about than jump through any extra paperwork hoops you think are necessary. They're too busy trying to figure out where the next meal is coming from.

There is no "recertification" for Social Security.

Well excuse the fuuk out of me your Highness!
You don't have any edge on understanding poor people or people on fixed income.
Being melodramatic about it just makes you look like a jerk.


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Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by local_dirt


And you obviously didn't read or possibly understand my reply to your post, which had nothing to do with what you last rambled about.

But, Rock On.


Boy I guess I needed to spell it out more explicitly.

My mother in law relies only on her SS which is <$1500/month.

I’d thought I’d give you the benefit of the doubt but “rock on.”

Or the amount of money we’re talking about they can do it or not get the money.

Your “logic” reminds me of those who act as tho showing legal ID to vote is some insurmountable obstacle.




You obviously didn't read my next post. You don't have to recertify for Social Security.


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Originally Posted by m_stevenson
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by m_stevenson
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by m_stevenson
Yeah, let's not do anything to try and reduce scamming.
As far as I'm concerned, if they receive Social Security payments and don't file tax returns, they can go through that small amount of hassle.



You obviously don't know any social security recipients living on < $1500/month.

You are jumping to conclusions if you think that.
I stand by my opinion. If you are receiving SS benefits and don't file taxes, you need to prove you are who you are and that you are entitled to those benefits.
Besides, WTF does living on $1500 a month have to do with this? Please explain in English.




You don't get it, and I'm not going to waste my time to explain it to you.

People living on < $1,500 a month have more important things to do and be concerned about than jump through any extra paperwork hoops you think are necessary. They're too busy trying to figure out where the next meal is coming from.

There is no "recertification" for Social Security.

Well excuse the fuuk out of me your Highness!
You don't have any edge on understanding poor people or people on fixed income.
Being melodramatic about it just makes you look like a jerk.




There is no recertification for Social Security whether you think there ought to be or not.


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Just found out we won't be getting a stimulus check. Originally they said they would use 2018 income and we were well within the limits then. Last year we sold a rental house we have had for quite a while and recaptured enough income to put us over the limit. Now they say they're using 2019 if you've already filed.

Between myself the wife and 3 kids we would have got $3900. Too bad I did my taxes already for 2019. I was just going to send the money back to them to help cover the $7000 we still owe in tax. At least we have until july to pay that.

Glad we have a little savings because the wife just got played off so we have no income now. So thankful we were a little bit prepared. Just hope we don't have to tap into the retirement accounts before this is over.

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