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If I only had a nickel for every rivet I've tightened or replaced in Lowe's and Lund's in my life........

It's never a matter of "will they leak" it's how much they will leak.
A riveted boat with a elevated floor and a auto bilge might never appear to have rivet seeps.....but they do...

Just put your non-leaking riveted boat on the trailer and fill it with about 6 inches of water and tell me what you see.

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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Airplanes, and semi trailers are riveted.


They aren't designed to float.


Not only that, but pressurized aircraft leak air constantly. They have pressurization system that constantly maintains pressure but inside cabin air is always leaking out.
On a boat the highest pressure on the hull is below waterline. It's not air trying to leak in.

I've been in dozens of riveted boats and noticed very few problems. What I do note on talking to craigs list sellers is that a fair number of riveted Lunds have been repaired.
Also noted that a fair number of welded Crestliners have had issues. Mostly with the transom.

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Rivets will flex without cracking.


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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Airplanes, and semi trailers are riveted.


They aren't designed to float.



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Bet they all have a hand pump in the front left float hatch too! I’ve never not seen one get pumped out before takeoff if it’s been sitting overnight.

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Originally Posted by wabigoon
My 14' Crestliner is riveted. I've never been in a welded boat. To each his own, it seems cabin fever goes on forever.


I have two Crestliner's that both leak just fine..,..

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Originally Posted by TheKid
Bet they all have a hand pump in the front left float hatch too! I’ve never not seen one get pumped out before takeoff if it’s been sitting overnight.


Check.....our's typically have a hole here and there to go with their various loose rivets...

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My money would never buy anything but a welded boat


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Always a good bet you’re in AK when there’s a small aluminum boat with a huge outboard with a jet foot on it. Rode many river miles in a 17’ semivee that had a 200 Yamaha hanging off the back. Down here the boat in your pic would probably have a 40 on it.

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Originally Posted by johnw
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Not even a question, welded only. Rivets get loose and leak. This is what I've done for 30 years, I know.


Am I correct in that G3 welds the flat bottoms, and rivets the V-hulls? If so do you know why?

Any experience with the G3 flat bottom or bay boats on big water and/or chop?

I haven't read through this whole thread but I weld aluminum and have repaired many many different types of aluminum boats. In my opinion I'll take welded construction any day as I can repair it if needed. That being said several years ago I repaired a G3 that the owner hit a small log in the river. I was amazed at how thin of material it was made out of. Due to that I'd look long and hard and pay more for something with a thicker bottom.

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Originally Posted by TheKid
Always a good bet you’re in AK when there’s a small aluminum boat with a huge outboard with a jet foot on it. Rode many river miles in a 17’ semivee that had a 200 Yamaha hanging off the back. Down here the boat in your pic would probably have a 40 on it.


That'd be my other Crestliner in Montana that has the 40 jet on it, same hull design but it's two foot shorter....

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The biggest problem I have with my boats, is getting them in water.


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I have a lund alaskan that has rivets and it’s dry as a bone.

I think it has to do with how you treat / handle (don’t abuse it) the boat... mine is also only 4 years old.. smile

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That good sir - is a huge motor on a small boat... that would be like skipping a rock.



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Originally Posted by wabigoon
My 14' Crestliner is riveted. I've never been in a welded boat. To each his own, it seems cabin fever goes on forever.


I have two Crestliner's that both leak just fine..,..

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Originally Posted by Spotshooter
I have a lund alaskan that has rivets and it’s dry as a bone.

I think it has to do with how you treat / handle (don’t abuse it) the boat... mine is also only 4 years old.. smile



I'd have to stay outta Alaskan waters to avoid abuse.
Flat bottoms and semi-vee's take a pounding on rough lakes when the winds come up but you have to have them to run the shallow rivers between the lakes which can be wall to wall rapids, rocks and rollers at times.

Then there are those occasional beaver dam and fallen tree jumps that can add to the issue.
Alaska wasn't built for calm lake queens.....


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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
I'd never own a riveted boat. They can be very well built, but each below the water rivet is a possible point of failure. Based on my observations rivets are more likely to fail than welds.

Based on your observations, you have seen them leak?


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Originally Posted by JeffA
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I have a lund alaskan that has rivets and it’s dry as a bone.

I think it has to do with how you treat / handle (don’t abuse it) the boat... mine is also only 4 years old.. smile



I'd have to stay outta Alaskan waters to avoid abuse.
Flat bottoms and semi-vee's take a pounding on rough lakes when the winds come up but you have to have them to run the shallow rivers between the lakes which can be wall to wall rapids, rocks and rollers at times.

Then there are those occasional beaver dam and fallen tree jumps that can add to the issue.
Alaska wasn't built for calm lake queens.....


Those.... those hulls are made in China...! Ask Craig Compost


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Originally Posted by johnn

Those.... those hulls are made in China...! Ask Craig Compost


Speaking of Craig..

I liked the earlier version of his video, "Come Hell or Low Water" they use to mail out on DVD.
Still pretty good, I like how they topped this version off with the Caribou kill....


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This makes a perfect Hells Canyon boat. And yes I copied this off the internet because I don't do the canyon, thats how you die.

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Keep in-mind not all welded boats are created equal

The blanket statement welded better is not really true
I can be, but not always

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