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thats more of what I was looking for..thanks 06hunter. I was looking at a brand new one and it was a little over 600. That's where I got that #. The seller didn't really have any info for me. Blackheart..get off computer for awhile. Think you need a break after 10k posts.."Pay attention"...lol. Good thing you weren't sitting in front of me with your tough talk. I wanted to know difference between brand new and pre. Conversation turned into pre vs a bad round in the 70s etc. All good info tho.
Thanks all for replies. I will search around for what I want. Brand new ones are made in Japan by Miroku and normally sell for North of 1000.00. If you found one for 625 you should have bought it. By the mid 70's they were decent guns as I said before. If I were sitting in front of you I'd have said the same damn thing. I never have been one to candy coat anything for anybody and l don't scare easy..
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Haha...i bet if u saw me you may not say that! š.Never shot one..how consistently accurate are they? Gun not shooter!!
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Haha...i bet if u saw me you may not say that! š.Never shot one..how consistently accurate are they? Gun not shooter!! My pre 64 would consistently put 3 shots in 1" - 1 1/4" at 100 yards back when my eyes were still young and sharp. Today it's about 2" at 100 for three shots out of my pre 64 and my 1979 model but my eyesight isn't as good as it used to be. Both guns wear receiver sights. Seriously, if you don't mind using iron sights, find a nice pre 64 and buy it. If you want to scope it, find a pre safety angle eject or buy a JM Marlin 336.
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for some reason winchester 94's are rare to find in gun shops around me. even though the freaking gun was invited only an hour drive from me. I think the pricing on '94's is kinda regional. I think they are cheapest in the great lakes area. Most expensive in the west. and inbetween in the east and south. I have seen very nice pre 64's for sale right here on this board's classifieds go for $550-650, IMO what is a nice pre64? late 40's to 1963 models with no extra holes on the left side of the receiver, mild bluing wear on the edges. minor dings on the stock. If there are extra holes on the left side of the receiver try to be $450 or less. of course there are people asking way too much money for these guns. check out armslist. I picked up a 1956 30-30 for $450 shipped, but it has 4 extra holes, they do look professionally done though. The rest of the gun is in good shape. some bluing wear in the usual places, IMO its character wear. nothing abusive etc. If I knew how much I would enjoy the gun, I would probably have been more patient and paid $600 for no holes and a little nicer overall shape. Doing that is probably the best investment idea too.
oh generally serial numbers below 2.7 million are pre 64, whats next for me. I want a pre war cherry gun. probably 1938 to 1941. I don't want the half moon or curve butt plate models.
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You can still find "shooter" pre 64's under 5-700. I agree with Mossyoak1957 in regards to the 32 spcl however my favorite 94 round is by far the 25-35 which can also be had in the newer versions.
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You will likely enjoy a lever rifle. Get an AE(angle eject) if you think you will put a scope on it. They are the only non deluxe rifles I own, but I have four. I got the 44 magnum win 94AE and a Ruger Blackhawk to match. Got two Marlin 30-30s and a Henry 22. You got to own a lever rifle for all the reasons you mentioned and more. They are outright fun and still take deer and hog effectively at short range. Donāt worry about all that pre 64 crap. Sure you can give it itās due consideration, but I could care less. And you probably will too. Buy new and be happy with your decision and go have fun. IN THE 90ās I bought three of the aforementioned brand new and my second Marlin 30-30 stainless three years ago. I love ever one of them . Donāt expect tight groups at 100. If you get 2ā groups be happy. By the way Marlin is doing good things again. With all the tacticool rifles at the range people always ask me what Iām shooting when I have one. Thereās tacticool and thereās lever action cool. Besides no one looked more slick than someone donning western garb and their firearms. You will love shooting it. Oh, new ones need a bit of working the lever sometimes before they get smooth. Nothingās is likely wrong with it if it feels a bit stiff at first.
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So as mentioned i'll be looking at pre 64 models but what do I look for in a new one? Sorry for dumb questions just want to be educated. Why is a pre 64 up to a 1,000 lets say and a brand new one is 5-600? In my looking you have those prices reversed.
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for some reason winchester 94's are rare to find in gun shops around me. even though the freaking gun was invited only an hour drive from me. I think the pricing on '94's is kinda regional. I think they are cheapest in the great lakes area. Most expensive in the west. and inbetween in the east and south. I have seen very nice pre 64's for sale right here on this board's classifieds go for $550-650, IMO what is a nice pre64? late 40's to 1963 models with no extra holes on the left side of the receiver, mild bluing wear on the edges. minor dings on the stock. If there are extra holes on the left side of the receiver try to be $450 or less. of course there are people asking way too much money for these guns. check out armslist. I picked up a 1956 30-30 for $450 shipped, but it has 4 extra holes, they do look professionally done though. The rest of the gun is in good shape. some bluing wear in the usual places, IMO its character wear. nothing abusive etc. If I knew how much I would enjoy the gun, I would probably have been more patient and paid $600 for no holes and a little nicer overall shape. Doing that is probably the best investment idea too.
oh generally serial numbers below 2.7 million are pre 64, whats next for me. I want a pre war cherry gun. probably 1938 to 1941. I don't want the half moon or curve butt plate models. A year ago I tried to sell a very good 1956 .30-30 94 in the U. P. of Michigan for $600 on consignment. I had one offer of $450, and took it back after 6 months. I still have it.
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please try an older Marlin (50s-60s) before you buy a Winchester
JMO but to me they are much smoother and can be scoped if you desire.
lot of Savage 99 fans out there, but I never acquired the habit
better idea, get one of each just to fully scratch the lever action itch, lol
I am saving up for a Taylor's Chiappa in .357 or .44 mag as a fun-gun
Last edited by kid0917; 04/24/20. Reason: better idea
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I like all of them but probably my favorite to shoot is a mid 80ās AE model Trapper in 30-30 and 44 mag.
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Youāve never really discussed what chamber you are interested in. Pre 64s are going to be predominately 30-30 WCF. The 1980s opened up to AE in 7-30 Waters (rare and expensive and hard to get your hands on), then there are other less rare but expensive 307 WCF, 356 WCF, 375 WCF and 444 Marlin. Today you can choose between only 30-30 WCF, 38-55 Win and 450 Marlin. At least that is my recollection. For a revolver cartridge I would opt for a 92.
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