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Has anyone used the SeeAll sight. Likes, dislikes opinions.
Here is the web site:

https://seeallopensight.com/

Any insight would be helpful. Especially if you have bad eye sight like me.

Thanks.

Jorge, I think Pappy48 has had considerable experience with those sights. Maybe he will chime in on the thread soon. RJ

They look interesting. I'd like to know as well.

I believe Pappy48 ended up not liking them so well because he said it was difficult to hold elevation well, because of the design of the sight, if I remember correctly. RJ

I'm interested but would like a trusted friend to have and use them. Be Well, Rustyzipper.

I've used them a bit. I have one on my muzzleloader (it's one of the few legal options to traditional irons during the muzzleloader-only seasons here in Idaho). I was looking for sights that were easier to see in dim light, and it delivers on that. I find it usable throughout legal hours, and also when shooting into shadow. I wear glasses now, and that hasn't given me any problems with the SeeAll.

The thing I found odd at first is how the "reticle" appears to change size with the distance from your eye. It looks bigger as it gets farther away. On the rifle it appears small and crisp, while at arms length it fills up the viewing lens. If anyone has used them on handguns, I'd be interested to hear your impressions.

Weeble thanks for the answer. Which generation sight are you using the old Mk1 or the new Mk2, does it have the tritium night sight option? Also what is the maximum range you think you could hit with it consistently, and get a killing shot on a deer?

Jorge, I’m using the Mk1. If you can hit the target with open sights, you should be able to do it with the SeeAll. On paper i get good results out to 150. Beyond that you’re aiming way above the target...judging the holdover is what limits you. This is due to the high trajectory of what I’m shooting, not the sights. Using a cartridge rifle would get you farther out I’m sure.

On deer and elk, my longest shots have been around 90. I think how far you can go with any non-magnified sight depends greatly upon the situation. So often in the early/late hours the game is hard to see even when close, and they always look smaller over a barrel. I don’t think the SeeAll gives you a range advantage (or disadvantage) vs iron sights.

I feel the advantage is in low light conditions. The problem I had was in the twilight hours and in the trees, sometimes i could see the game but not the sights. I tried aperture sights, but that wasn’t any better. The SeeAll solves the problem, and otherwise performs like irons.

Weeble thank you. Very informative answer.

Pappy348 just replaced the SeeAll he was auditioning on his crossbow with a PA Cyclops 1x prism, which fortuitously has hashmarks that line up well with the ranging ones in the original crossbow scope, and weighs half as much. The crosshair SeeAll will tryout on a .44 rifle, where a red dot wasn't the answer. The delta version will get a shot on my .357, along with a FF3.

I find the SeeAlls much easier to get behind on a long gun than a pistol. On both an airgun and the crossbow I was able to shoot quite accurately close up, but I had some trouble farther out with a .22. The big draw for me was being able to see the sight perfectly without glasses. The PA prism has a focusing ocular just like a scope, and is clearly faster for me than the SeeAll. I suspect personal vision quirks make a big difference in the usability of these things. Just like with irons, I do better on some days than others. If you have trouble keeping both eyes open when shooting, SeeAlls probably won't work well for you. My neighbor put one on his Glock 43 and loves it.

SeeAll will let you try one out and return it if it doesn't work out. They commonly put various versions on sale.

Pappy, Thanks for the info on your experiences. I also have a PA SLX 1X on a 30-06 and I love it, and can make very accurate shots with it. The only draw back with the Prism sights is that they are about as heavy as a light weight scope. That is except for one. Enter the Bushnell L'il P. It is an awesome little prism scope that weighs less than 5 ounces. The illumination is very good, you can use the retical illuminated in bright sun if you want. In December I shot a boar at about 60 meters using the Bushnell on a Win M70 in 308. The hog was running and I just brought up the rifle put the dot on him and squeezed the trigger without thinking. I like both the PA and the Bushnell. With the Bushnell on my "ultra-light" M70 Winchester 308, it weighs just 6 pounds, 4 ounces. I think it is the perfect optic for driven game hunts and the light weight is very good to an old man carrying a rifle up those mountains. RJ

Thanks to all that have chimed in with your insight on the sights. I wish I could use a prism sight on the rifle I am thinking of mounting it. But due to the distance from the sight to my eye, the eye relief is too short. So it’s either a red dot (I don’t want batteries, and electronics are prone to failure; some prism sights permit the usage of the reticle event if the electronics go on the fritz). So it’s the SeeAll or nothing and my eye sight has problems with iron sights. Mounting a scope or peep sight have other drawbacks on the rifle.
So my question to Pappy is: Which generation sight did you use the Mk1 or Mk2, and what do you think caused the problem at longer ranges with the 22?

FWIW, the PA Cyclops has 3.7 inches of ER, and you might be able to squeeze out a bit more. Etched reticle works, battery or no.

Not sure there was a problem at all with the SeeAll that day, maybe just one of those Old Eyes days. Didn't linger very long with that little test, just remounted a scope and moved on. That was the crosshair model. The Delta version is much bolder and easier to pick up. As I mentioned, that one seemed fine on the airgun up to about 25 yards, which is about all I try in my yard. Both are Mk2s, with the side knob. A Mk1 would be slimmer on a handgun or even a rifle, and they are much cheaper too. I'm not giving up on these yet; they have some real advantages if I can get them working for me. If you spot one or both in the Classifieds, you'll know I gave up. The crosshair one has tritium, which is pretty neat.

BTW, the initial test of the PA prism on my crossbow went well. Mounted a laser on the rail in front of the SeeAll, matched the dot with the delta, then adjusted the prism to match after removing the SA. Had to fiddle a bit to compensate for the higher mounting height, but all told it only took four or five shots to zero at 20 yards. Now I have to test at longer ranges to verify my hold. Nice sight!

Thank you all for your help.

They sent me one for a field test when I was writing for Rifle magazine.
I thought they were pretty hokey, so didn't do a review. They also blocked out half your view.

I have trouble getting a good sight picture with one at times, maybe due to my eyes' constant struggle for dominance. Sometimes everything works and the reticle pops up just right, with the target clearly in view, sometimes it's a struggle. For my eyes, it's definitely a short-range proposition at best.

One-eyed shooters need not apply.