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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
How about everybody that wants to get out and about and expose people do what they want with the consequence being NO HEALTHCARE if they get sick with it...or anything else. Not just no hospital or ventilator, no clinic trips, no meds, no nothing. Prosecution for exposing somebody who later gets sick with it. Would that work?
The chest-thumping, self-professed “patriots” and “free men” clearly think they should be ‘free’ to infect others and unnecessarily contribute to the spread of this pathogen.


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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by szihn
The question is asked:
"So you think we should start the next Civil War?"

Ok good question. But it begs a few counter questions.

Do you think not fighting back is going to make the "left" stop attacking those that love the USA?

How well has surrendering your rights away worked out so far?

How many policies enforced today would have been laughed at only 20 years ago?

Do you think going along to get along is going to secure a better future?

Do you think the leftists inside our government are going to stop and leave you alone?

Do you think there is NOT going to be a war against you as a gun owner?

Do you think the communists are going to just give up and go away forever?

Do you think you can compromise yourself into a safer place?

Do you think there is not going to be a war just because your side doesn't start it?


Political differences are nothing new. For now, we have a Republication President, Republication lead Senate, and a right leaning SCOTUS, and 26 of 50 governors are Republican.

With talk radio and alternative media, and the demise of the credibility of the MSM, we have a better voice now than anytime in the last 100 years.

Temporary emergency impacts on liberties are nothing new. We're being asked not to congregate, stay home, hang out with the family for a spell while this virus passes. None of this is unprecedented. There's no good evidence this is all some grand conspiracy, or that C19 is lab grown, or any of the other absurd hypothesis put forth.

We are not being asked to island hop the pacific, or go over the top, or have populations spend 4 years in internment camp, just stay home for awhile. Heck in this state they didn't even close the gun stores, and my outdoor range is still open.

The idea that the government response to COVID-19 in someway justifies a call to arms for the initiation of a second Civil War is absurd CRAZY TALK. Nothing I've seen justifies such thinking. Our institutions are still functions, and if you don't like the actions of your elected officials, it's an election year, go cast your vote.
I agree with almost all of your post.


Yep. Some good common sense thinking there, for the most part.
And like AS said, At LEAST the LGS are still open.

But I still believe the Fake News Media will use this at every possible opportunity to destroy America’s Economy and ANY chance to beat Trump in the upcoming POTUS Election. And that the Commie Socialist DemoRat’s will never let a tragedy go to waste if they see an opportunity to take away our Second Amendment Rights!

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
How about everybody that wants to get out and about and expose people do what they want with the consequence being NO HEALTHCARE if they get sick with it...or anything else. Not just no hospital or ventilator, no clinic trips, no meds, no nothing. Prosecution for exposing somebody who later gets sick with it. Would that work?


You'd be surprised how many fire members' attitude toward Constitutional violations is:

No compromise. Not now. Not ever.

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Originally Posted by vapodog
We incarcerated thousands of (Japanese) US citizens during WWII.....

Further....there is such a thing as Marshal law declarations. I'm not sure that has been done yet nor what the procedure is to do it.....but our constitutional rights can be disregarded under some circumstances.

Who is Marshal Law?


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Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
How about everybody that wants to get out and about and expose people do what they want with the consequence being NO HEALTHCARE if they get sick with it...or anything else. Not just no hospital or ventilator, no clinic trips, no meds, no nothing. Prosecution for exposing somebody who later gets sick with it. Would that work?


You'd be surprised how many fire members' attitude toward Constitutional violations is:

No compromise. Not now. Not ever.
I would be surprised since I think many are indeed willing to compromise away our Constitutional rights. Right now it'd be best if you just stayed in your Quarantine area and spouted your ill-thought out nonsense just like you're doing here now. Most of us expect you to get on here and regale us with your bs from time to time, Fudtardski.

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We incarcerated thousands of (Japanese) US citizens during WWII.....

Further....there is such a thing as Marshal law declarations. I'm not sure that has been done yet nor what the procedure is to do it.....but our constitutional rights can be disregarded under some circumstances.

Who is Marshal Law?
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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
I would be surprised since I think many are indeed willing to compromise away our Constitutional rights.


Like you.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
How about everybody that wants to get out and about and expose people do what they want with the consequence being NO HEALTHCARE if they get sick with it...or anything else. Not just no hospital or ventilator, no clinic trips, no meds, no nothing. Prosecution for exposing somebody who later gets sick with it. Would that work?
The chest-thumping, self-professed “patriots” and “free men” clearly think they should be ‘free’ to infect others and unnecessarily contribute to the spread of this pathogen.


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So Constitutional rights can be suspended if the POTUS declares a national emergency due to a pandemic.

What happens if a future democrat president declares an emergency after a mass shooting and confiscates all guns?


That's not even remotely the same.


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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
How about everybody that wants to get out and about and expose people do what they want with the consequence being NO HEALTHCARE if they get sick with it...or anything else. Not just no hospital or ventilator, no clinic trips, no meds, no nothing. Prosecution for exposing somebody who later gets sick with it. Would that work?
The chest-thumping, self-professed “patriots” and “free men” clearly think they should be ‘free’ to infect others and unnecessarily contribute to the spread of this pathogen.


Yup


Yeah, Im sure that's the problem.....

Id wager its the "can't wipe their ass right with 150 government subsidized wet nap washcloths" crowd causing the most problems.

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Originally Posted by moosemike
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7k people dead so far, in a country of 330 million. 7k couldn't even be a rounding error in the census and yet, we're literally committing economic suicide. If this continues on, people are going to really, really regret it when there are no jobs to return to.

The virus is predominantly killing old people yet, I see old people out all over the place. The solution is simple. The old, the perpetually sick, and the fuggin pussies should all stay home while everyone else gets back to work. If you're young and get sick, stay home and eat chicken noodle soup... like we did in the oldin days way back in 2019. If you get the virus well, that sucks.. hope you survive. An no employment protection for the fuggin pussies.

My opinion, I see a bunch of people who are more than happy to "work from home" or take their furlough and collect a government check. I think deep down, a lot of people including many on this forum, are enjoying their little vacation and leisure. But it's going to come at a steep price.

I just hope some adults finally take control of the situation and say the jig is up... get your ases back to work.



You're an idiot on a whole nother level. And I'm still working being essential and all.


And miraculously, you're still alive?!?!

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I used to think this site was full of people who would be the ones to stand beside when the shot hit the fan. Now, I'm dismayed how easily most are willing to give up freedom for a (false) sense of security.

Apparently none of you have been around anyone that has had this crap or you wouldn’t be worried about freedom instead of just living. What the hell is freedom if your dead!

Thanks for making my point. 200 years of patriots were willing to give their lives so you could cower in the basement afraid of the virus. What the he'll is life if your scared to go outside?

All you're really doing is parroting mindless rhetoric on the internet, so it's not like you're doing anything special or different yourself.


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Originally Posted by copperking81
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Originally Posted by copperking81
7k people dead so far, in a country of 330 million. 7k couldn't even be a rounding error in the census and yet, we're literally committing economic suicide. If this continues on, people are going to really, really regret it when there are no jobs to return to.

The virus is predominantly killing old people yet, I see old people out all over the place. The solution is simple. The old, the perpetually sick, and the fuggin pussies should all stay home while everyone else gets back to work. If you're young and get sick, stay home and eat chicken noodle soup... like we did in the oldin days way back in 2019. If you get the virus well, that sucks.. hope you survive. An no employment protection for the fuggin pussies.

My opinion, I see a bunch of people who are more than happy to "work from home" or take their furlough and collect a government check. I think deep down, a lot of people including many on this forum, are enjoying their little vacation and leisure. But it's going to come at a steep price.

I just hope some adults finally take control of the situation and say the jig is up... get your ases back to work.



You're an idiot on a whole nother level. And I'm still working being essential and all.


And miraculously, you're still alive?!?!


Luck of the draw. I work in an apartment complex of 800 apartments right across the street from a major hospital where most of them work. How long can I continue to get lucky?

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Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
I would be surprised since I think many are indeed willing to compromise away our Constitutional rights.


Like you.
lol Please explain your thoughts on yelling "fire" in a crowded theater where no fire or evidence of one exists along with a scholarly treatise on the absolute right of the Press to knowingly lie to their readers under the 1st Amendment. Also kindly post a link to the preacher who got shot for resisting arrest after being told not to physically assemble with his congregation in order to prevent him and them from not only getting COVID themselves but also from spreading it to their family and subsequently to the general population around them.

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
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Fubarski,

Here's your greatest intellectual challenge. You are a linear, all or none, thinker, incapable of understanding nuance and subtitle.





I'm glad many foreign movies and other international programming available on YT and Netflix have an option to enable subtitles. When I use my remote to turn the option on I don't do it subtly, though. I mash those little buttons, and hard. When I want my subtitles on I want them NOW!

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Leighton,

I hope you and your beautiful wife are doing well through all of this . It good the spell checker can bring us some much needed comic relief. laugh


Glad you took it as intended, AS. wink And yes, thank you, we're holing--and holding-- up just fine. Hope the same is true for you and yours. Earlier today I disregarded a clumsily spray painted sign declaring a park closed. I, Wee Wifey and our pair of labs weren't going to enter the park but rather use its lot to access a trail in a wooded area that runs adjacent to the river. After enjoying the solitude, the couple mile hike and swim that the girls enjoyed (the four legged ones) we climbed back into the car and headed out. A half mile after turning onto the local road I see a town cop heading towards me on the other side of the road. I see her eyes get wide and she slams on the brakes of the SUV and sticks her head out the window with a fat finger pointed at me. I slow down and as we approach each other she shrieks out in a tone that reminded me of Edith Bunker, "THE PARK IS CLOSED! CANT YOU READ ENGLISH?"

Obviously she'd rolled into the lot after we'd set out for our walk and seen that a 'violator' was out there somewhere, but not stuck around long enough to grab me 'in the act'. As luck would have it she recognized my car as it headed towards her after our leaving.

In response to her question, I bellowed back as I drove by her, "Sometimes. Now go fark yourself, lady!" My wife in the passenger seat sunk down and looked at me in abject horror and looked as if she fully expected a high speed chase and shootout to ensue. I laughed heartily.

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Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
I would be surprised since I think many are indeed willing to compromise away our Constitutional rights.


Like you.
Also, please explain how me thinking that cooperating in trying to flatten the COVID's curve is in ANY way indicative of trampling your gun rights or my own...I mean, seeing as how the President has declared gun stores as essential services.

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Hmm... ok, so no healthcare for those of us who want to get off our azz and keep the country moving? Fair enough.

But in return, if the economy tanks and you lazy fuggs don't have jobs... no more gubbermint cheese, never ending unemployment checks, or welfare. No more obama bucks, Trumpy checks, or bailouts. No free chit period.

Bunch of old women scared of a fuggin cold.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
I would be surprised since I think many are indeed willing to compromise away our Constitutional rights.


Like you.
lol Please explain your thoughts on yelling "fire" in a crowded theater where no fire or evidence of one exists along with a scholarly treatise on the absolute right of the Press to knowingly lie to their readers under the 1st Amendment. Also kindly post a link to the preacher who got shot for resisting arrest after being told not to physically assemble with his congregation in order to prevent him and them from not only getting COVID themselves but also from spreading it to their family and subsequently to the general population around them.


The "fire in a crowded theater" ruling was overturned as being unconstitutional.

In the current situation, anyone that is able to speak is being barred from entering a theater, because they *might* yell fire, which is also unconstitutional.

Then of course, there's that pesky right of assembly, which you overlooked.

I sympathize with you, actually.

Freedom is a difficult concept for many people.

They think they want it, until they actually get it.

Then, they're afraid of it, when it actually becomes an issue.

You're afraid of it.

So are many other people that are at risk, or have relations that are at risk, for whatever reason.

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Originally Posted by copperking81
Bunch of old women scared of a fuggin cold.


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Originally Posted by copperking81
Hmm... ok, so no healthcare for those of us who want to get off our azz and keep the country moving? Fair enough.

But in return, if the economy tanks and you lazy fuggs don't have jobs... no more gubbermint cheese, never ending unemployment checks, or welfare. No more obama bucks, Trumpy checks, or bailouts. No free chit period.

Bunch of old women scared of a fuggin cold.

A Cold that if you survive it causes permanent lung damage and will take possibly 10+ years off your life.

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