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I work in a gunshop that specializes (like most these days) in plastic pistols and black rifles. It has a "cool" tactical sounding name, too. I'm 60 years old and miss the "good ole days" when people bought guns when they were fun. I know the need for the 2nd Amendment and its defense but so many getting into guns nowadays only see it as a defensive tool for dire situations. They don't appreciate walnut, bluing, a nice over-under or a good target .22. It's depressing. They actually think that cheap plastic stocks and cerakote are "better". Two years ago when I bought a Remington Model 7 with a laminated stock, I was asked why I didn't get a Ruger American. It goes on, and on... Rant over.

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Understood, but have a drink, relax and enjoy what you own. Interests change, and sometimes, grow. Guys buying plastic stuff today may buy wood/blue tomorrow.


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Remember that Mossberg pump that had a chainsaw handle on it...? Or the semi-auto pistol that had a knife mounted on it...?

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Originally Posted by antlers
Remember that Mossberg pump that had a chainsaw handle on it...?

lol
They just came out with a Shockwave version of it. The sad thing is that it's popular... frown

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Originally Posted by antlers
Remember that Mossberg pump that had a chainsaw handle on it...? Or the semi-auto pistol that had a knife mounted on it...?

lol


I remember sthose Mossbergs and also eeing a mount for a Glock rail with a small bayonet on it at a Gunshow several years ago. I LMAO.

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Maybe people don't want to damage the nice looking blue/wood guns so they don't buy them.


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Nothing wrong with Ruger American Rifles though.
For a cheap rifle they flat out shoot very accurately.
My Predator in 6.5 CM and RAR in 7.62x39 that uses Mini-30 magazines are super accurate and make great 4-wheel guns.


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Maybe young doods like the bad girl instead of the well-mannered one you take home to Mom.


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I love it! those same plastic gun lovers are selling grandpa's guns that they inherited for pennies on the dollar so they can buy boring Tupperware junk that can't keep a group inside a 5-gallon bucket at 100 yards. The bargain racks at most gun shops and virtually all pawnshops are filled to overflowing with the high quality wood and blue steel rifles I couldn't afford to buy when they were new! I walked out of a pawn shop just east of Memphis with a scoped, sporterized US 1917 chambered in 300 H&H Magnum with a vintage Reinhardt Fajen stock (NOT the junk they produced after Potterfield bought the company) for less than $300.00 awhile back! That's one of several bargain rack custom guns I've acquired for chump change!
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Originally Posted by UPhiker
I work in a gunshop that specializes (like most these days) in plastic pistols and black rifles. It has a "cool" tactical sounding name, too. I'm 60 years old and miss the "good ole days" when people bought guns when they were fun. I know the need for the 2nd Amendment and its defense but so many getting into guns nowadays only see it as a defensive tool for dire situations. They don't appreciate walnut, bluing, a nice over-under or a good target .22. It's depressing. They actually think that cheap plastic stocks and cerakote are "better". Two years ago when I bought a Remington Model 7 with a laminated stock, I was asked why I didn't get a Ruger American. It goes on, and on... Rant over.
Personally, I like both. I love my Dad, may he RIP, but many of his generation certainly didn't "get" the need for black guns and would tell you so gladly. They also in many if not most cases, had no problem at all with the .gov banning them...IMO simply because they personally didn't like their looks. Vietnam and the distrust of the government was partially the cause of that changing and the guns themselves changed the attitudes of younger dudes too. Now probably, a Mini 14 with the classic hardwood stock of ye olden time periods would be seen by many of them as a "Boomer's gun". Maybe the next firearms will be Phase Plasma Rifle in 40 Watt range. I dunno. I do know that more folks are much more aware of their gun rights and generally into guns, than they were when I was a kid.

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I'll tell you what too...a Garand would be better than a lot of guns in a bad situation, but if the SHTF I'd rather have a bare-bones AR than ANY 2x4 handling Garand, six days a week and twice on Sunday.

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Originally Posted by UPhiker
I work in a gunshop that specializes (like most these days) in plastic pistols and black rifles. It has a "cool" tactical sounding name, too. I'm 60 years old and miss the "good ole days" when people bought guns when they were fun. I know the need for the 2nd Amendment and its defense but so many getting into guns nowadays only see it as a defensive tool for dire situations. They don't appreciate walnut, bluing, a nice over-under or a good target .22. It's depressing. They actually think that cheap plastic stocks and cerakote are "better". Two years ago when I bought a Remington Model 7 with a laminated stock, I was asked why I didn't get a Ruger American. It goes on, and on... Rant over.


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In 1979 at the Walmart in Norman, Oklahoma they had Ruger Mini-14’s on sale for $188.00; I bought three of em’. Back then they had the wooden hand guards on em’.


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Ethan, you misunderstand. I own my share of Glocks and ARs and understand the need for them. It's just that so many don't consider guns as an enjoyable hobby. It's all "life or death" to them. Almost none hunt. They get their ARs and do mag dumps at 15yds and think they're "cool". When I talk about shooting high power at 600yds, they aren't interested and act like I'm speaking a foreign language. It's just frustrating.

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Originally Posted by antlers
In 1979 at the Walmart in Norman, Oklahoma they had Ruger Mini-14’s on sale for $188.00; I bought three of em’. Back then they had the wooden hand guards on em’.
Walmart has been in and out of the gun business so many times it's hard to keep up with what they've had or haven't had. Honestly, I was still in high school then and seldom went to Walmart as our county was about a decade off of having one. They had one in the next county though, but I seldom went there. I bought my first Mini from a semi-local gunstore probably two or three years after that. It was stainless with a wooden stock and still had the wooden handguards such as you describe. Beautiful gun. Not too long after you buying yours and IIRC the price was a hundred dollars higher than that, at least. Of course it was stainless though and those had very recently hit the shelves.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
I'll tell you what too...a Garand would be better than a lot of guns in a bad situation, but if the SHTF I'd rather have a bare-bones AR than ANY 2x4 handling Garand, six days a week and twice on Sunday.

I own both. One for the history and one for the utility. The thing is, they don't know what a Garand is capable of, and don't care. You can't shoot it in a tactical crouch with your left hand up near the muzzle.

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Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
I love it! those same plastic gun lovers are selling grandpa's guns that they inherited for pennies on the dollar so they can buy boring Tupperware junk that can't keep a group inside a 5-gallon bucket at 100 yards. The bargain racks at most gun shops and virtually all pawnshops are filled to overflowing with the high quality wood and blue steel rifles I couldn't afford to buy when they were new! I walked out of a pawn shop just east of Memphis with a scoped, sporterized US 1917 chambered in 300 H&H Magnum with a vintage Reinhardt Fajen stock (NOT the junk they produced after Potterfield bought the company) for less than $300.00 awhile back! That's one of several bargain rack custom guns I've acquired for chump change!
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Man everytime I see a cool classic gun advertised for trade the only thing the seller is looking for is tactical guns. A lot of guys dont want cash right now they want an AR or a Glock. If I had some tactical stuff right now I could trade into some really great classic deer rifles.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
I'll tell you what too...a Garand would be better than a lot of guns in a bad situation, but if the SHTF I'd rather have a bare-bones AR than ANY 2x4 handling Garand, six days a week and twice on Sunday.


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I just sold my last AR a few weeks ago. I can't stand them. Give me a lever action 357 for self defense and I'm fine. I don't plan on dying in a firefight.


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Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
I love it! those same plastic gun lovers are selling grandpa's guns that they inherited for pennies on the dollar so they can buy boring Tupperware junk that can't keep a group inside a 5-gallon bucket at 100 yards.
Jerry

I own numerous guns of the Tupperware variety and none of them would match that description, even my Mini-14 will do better than that. The modern Tupperware guns being produced currently are some of the most accurate factory guns ever produced. And I also have several of the wood and steel variety.


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