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Remember, 223’s are marginal and not recommend for deer. Bullet design and terminal ballistics have nothing to do with it. A 45gr SP is exactly the same as a 50gr mono, which is exactly the same as a 77gr TMK.


Last year was mostly a 6.5 deal, but years prior. Impacts from nearly 3,000fps to just over 1,800. None were “80 pound swampier Louisiana whitetails”.


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I loaned a buddy my .223 and his daughter shot 2 caribou with it in 2019. Ive never shot any "big game" with one.

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I want to try the 77 grain tipped match king. I have killed two deer, and 3 pigs with a 5.56, tsx and swift bullets, I almost feel like it outperforms a 6.8 spc with 95 grain TTSX bullets.


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Lots of deer and hogs up to 250 yards


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Originally Posted by Formidilosus
Remember, 223’s are marginal and not recommend for deer. Bullet design and terminal ballistics have nothing to do with it. A 45gr SP is exactly the same as a 50gr mono, which is exactly the same as a 77gr TMK.


Last year was mostly a 6.5 deal, but years prior. Impacts from nearly 3,000fps to just over 1,800. None were “80 pound swampier Louisiana whitetails”.


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And that there, is why I generally avoid bone whenever possible and try to put the bullet tight behind the shoulder.
I'll take the occasional 50 yards runner, and VERY occasionally 100 yard+ runner to not have to deal with those bone fragments and that nasty, gritty bone marrow in the shoulder meat.



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Originally Posted by Formidilosus
Bullet design and terminal ballistics have nothing to do with it. A 45gr SP is exactly the same as a 50gr mono, which is exactly the same as a 77gr

How so? Please clarify.

How is a 50 grain mono that retains 99-100% of its weight even remotely the same as a 45 that retains maybe 40% at best and a 77 that is the same as the 45 at best??

Confused here.

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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag

Maybe one of the stupidest phuqcking statements I have seen on here.




Quote the sentence before that, look at what I posted, and think a bit.

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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by Formidilosus
Bullet design and terminal ballistics have nothing to do with it. A 45gr SP is exactly the same as a 50gr mono, which is exactly the same as a 77gr

How so? Please clarify.

How is a 50 grain mono that retains 99-100% of its weight even remotely the same as a 45 that retains maybe 40% at best and a 77 that is the same as the 45 at best??

Maybe one of the stupidest phuqcking statements I have seen on here.


Dude.....hold on.
You're smart enough to see what this quote really means, and how he meant it.

I've read stuff quickly too and not processed it before commenting on it....it happens.



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Works on about everything, monkeys to ele. Placement is to be considered of course.

I don't have a pic of the ele, and will spare you the pic of another critter.


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Originally Posted by T_Inman
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by Formidilosus
Bullet design and terminal ballistics have nothing to do with it. A 45gr SP is exactly the same as a 50gr mono, which is exactly the same as a 77gr

How so? Please clarify.

How is a 50 grain mono that retains 99-100% of its weight even remotely the same as a 45 that retains maybe 40% at best and a 77 that is the same as the 45 at best??

Maybe one of the stupidest phuqcking statements I have seen on here.


Dude.....hold on.
You're smart enough to see what this quote really means, and how he meant it.

I've read stuff quickly too and not processed it before commenting on it....it happens.

Somebody is going to have to explain that one to me.


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That’s kind of sad for you


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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Somebody is going to have to explain that one to me.
He was being facetious.


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Somebody is going to have to explain that one to me.
He was being facetious.

Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Somebody is going to have to explain that one to me.
He was being facetious.

My bad. Had to go back and reread/think.

My apologies.


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Originally Posted by T_Inman
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by Formidilosus
Bullet design and terminal ballistics have nothing to do with it. A 45gr SP is exactly the same as a 50gr mono, which is exactly the same as a 77gr

How so? Please clarify.

How is a 50 grain mono that retains 99-100% of its weight even remotely the same as a 45 that retains maybe 40% at best and a 77 that is the same as the 45 at best??

Maybe one of the stupidest phuqcking statements I have seen on here.


Dude.....hold on.
You're smart enough to see what this quote really means, and how he meant it.

I've read stuff quickly too and not processed it before commenting on it....it happens.

At first I thought, those dang Creedmores sure are destructive. Then I saw the reference to the past.

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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Somebody is going to have to explain that one to me.
He was being facetious.

Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Somebody is going to have to explain that one to me.
He was being facetious.

My bad. Had to go back and reread/think.

My apologies.


Correct.

Sarcasm can be difficult to see when reading what someone writes, without hearing their tone of voice and verbal persona. BTDT.



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Coyotes out to 300yds or so
Beavers out to 200 at least
Whitetails from 20 yds to around 150

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Originally Posted by hanco
Lots of pigs out to 225 yards with a 62 Barnes TTSX


Yep. Great bullet along with the 60 gr Nosler Partition.

I’ve taken a ton of hogs with those bullets and several deer too.


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I am not a Barnes fan by any stretch of the imagination, for a few different reasons, but I have developed a fondness for the .224" 62 grain TSX.

It's a killer.



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