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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
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I don't let any of these preachers get in between me and God, God is solid, I'm abit shaky.


There’s only one between you and Him.

I hear you Old Toot!

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Originally Posted by Old_Toot


I have to say that I admire the Jehovas and the Mormons for ‘living their faith.’

Yeah, Paul accounts for 30% or more of the NT. It took him getting knocked off of his ass and onto his ass to eventually see the “light”. But see it, he did. Fearless.


I have Jehovah's Witness members in my family and have know a few Mormons.
I still say nobody lives the faith as well as the Salvation Army.


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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
1, Sincere pastors aren't doing it for the money.
2, There are quite a few qualified pastors that won't do it unless there is lots
of money.

I'm feeling it on #1.
On #2, maybe drop the word qualified and I can groove.

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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by 673
I don't let any of these preachers get in between me and God, God is solid, I'm abit shaky.


There’s only one between you and Him.


Since they are simply one in the same (Trinity=Father/Son/Holy Spirit) I see nothing that's preventing a direct line to the Boss.
Don't need a human operator to place that call, for sure.
I'm ok with being a wretch. I will let the Creator do the heavy lifting as He is quite capable.
I will answer when I hear my name. I deal with whatever is placed in front of my own eyes. I am ready to stand accountable.

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Originally Posted by WTM45
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by 673
I don't let any of these preachers get in between me and God, God is solid, I'm abit shaky.


There’s only one between you and Him.


Since they are simply one in the same (Trinity=Father/Son/Holy Spirit) I see nothing that's preventing a direct line to the Boss.
Don't need a human operator to place that call, for sure.
I'm ok with being a wretch. I will let the Creator do the heavy lifting as He is quite capable.
I will answer when I hear my name.



They are not one and the same. They are three distinct beings. The trinitarian unity belief is illogical, non-biblical non-sense.


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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by Old_Toot


I have to say that I admire the Jehovas and the Mormons for ‘living their faith.’

Yeah, Paul accounts for 30% or more of the NT. It took him getting knocked off of his ass and onto his ass to eventually see the “light”. But see it, he did. Fearless.


I have Jehovah's Witness members in my family and have know a few Mormons.
I still say nobody lives the faith as well as the Salvation Army.

Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by Old_Toot


I have to say that I admire the Jehovas and the Mormons for ‘living their faith.’

Yeah, Paul accounts for 30% or more of the NT. It took him getting knocked off of his ass and onto his ass to eventually see the “light”. But see it, he did. Fearless.


I have Jehovah's Witness members in my family and have know a few Mormons.
I still say nobody lives the faith as well as the Salvation Army.



Indeed they (SA) do, Bows.


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Originally Posted by WTM45
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by 673
I don't let any of these preachers get in between me and God, God is solid, I'm abit shaky.


There’s only one between you and Him.


Since they are simply one in the same (Trinity=Father/Son/Holy Spirit) I see nothing that's preventing a direct line to the Boss.
Don't need a human operator to place that call, for sure.
I'm ok with being a wretch. I will let the Creator do the heavy lifting as He is quite capable.
I will answer when I hear my name. I deal with whatever is placed in front of my own eyes. I am ready to stand accountable.


I understand your intended meaning with the exception of “No man comes to the Father except through Me”.

You may recognize who the Author of that statement is.


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Originally Posted by WTM45
And we're off and running!

LOL


You forgot to ring the Sanctus Bell to start things, kinda like at Churchill Downs.

Gimmetenhailmarys rat now!


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Originally Posted by WTM45
And we're off and running!

LOL


Yep, time for me to unsubscribe.

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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by WTM45
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by 673
I don't let any of these preachers get in between me and God, God is solid, I'm abit shaky.


There’s only one between you and Him.


Since they are simply one in the same (Trinity=Father/Son/Holy Spirit) I see nothing that's preventing a direct line to the Boss.
Don't need a human operator to place that call, for sure.
I'm ok with being a wretch. I will let the Creator do the heavy lifting as He is quite capable.
I will answer when I hear my name. I deal with whatever is placed in front of my own eyes. I am ready to stand accountable.


I understand your intended meaning with the exception of “No man comes to the Father except through Me”.

You may recognize who the Author of that statement is.

Yep. The voice I get when I call has been the same voice I hear when I am called.
I'm not worried over the interpretative semantics, nor am I going to analyze it needlessly. Some folks have time to do just that.
Makes me no better a wretch.

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Originally Posted by WTM45
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by WTM45
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by 673
I don't let any of these preachers get in between me and God, God is solid, I'm abit shaky.


There’s only one between you and Him.


Since they are simply one in the same (Trinity=Father/Son/Holy Spirit) I see nothing that's preventing a direct line to the Boss.
Don't need a human operator to place that call, for sure.
I'm ok with being a wretch. I will let the Creator do the heavy lifting as He is quite capable.
I will answer when I hear my name. I deal with whatever is placed in front of my own eyes. I am ready to stand accountable.


I understand your intended meaning with the exception of “No man comes to the Father except through Me”.

You may recognize who the Author of that statement is.

Yep. The voice I get when I call has been the same voice I hear when I am called.
I'm not worried over the interpretative semantics, nor am I going to analyze it needlessly. Some folks have time to do just that.
Makes me no better a wretch.


Can’t fault that.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by Old_Toot

It ain’t about a middle man.


Money grabbing churches build their
business model around a middleman
they call Jesus.




He’s hardly a middle man. He is the Man .

And starman is hardly a Christian. He is the devil's disciple.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by Old_Toot

It ain’t about a middle man.


Money grabbing churches build their
business model around a middleman
they call Jesus.




He’s hardly a middle man. He is the Man .

And starman is hardly a Christian. He is the devil's disciple.


Starman is a useful savant to go 180 degrees opposite to his agenda. Very dependable in that regard.


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Originally Posted by Romulus
I have been following this thread very closely and I see so many here are wise, knowledgeable, politically correct but not prolific with the Bible, come on where are all the Bible student. I’ll no express my person believes on tithing but I will show you all God’s instruction on this matter. Let’s look to Deuteronomy 14 vs 22. And it says

22“You must set aside a tithe of your crops—one-tenth of all the crops you harvest each year. 23Bring this tithe to the designated place of worship—the place the LORD your God chooses for his name to be honored—and eat it there in his presence. This applies to your tithes of grain, new wine, olive oil, and the firstborn males of your flocks and herds. Doing this will teach you always to fear the LORD your God.

24“Now when the LORD your God blesses you with a good harvest, the place of worship he chooses for his name to be honored might be too far for you to bring the tithe. 25If so, you may sell the tithe portion of your crops and herds, put the money in a pouch, and go to the place the LORD your God has chosen. 26When you arrive, you may use the money to buy any kind of food you want—cattle, sheep, goats, wine, or other alcoholic drink. Then feast there in the presence of the LORD your God and celebrate with your household. 27And do not neglect the Levites in your town, for they will receive no allotment of land among you.

28“At the end of every third year, bring the entire tithe of that year’s harvest and store it in the nearest town. 29Give it to the Levites, who will receive no allotment of land among you, as well as to the foreigners living among you, the orphans, and the widows in your towns, so they can eat and be satisfied. Then the LORD your God will bless you in all your work.”


As you all can see the Bible never told us to bring money to the house of God. A lot of people don’t study. I didn’t put it there check it yourself. Jesus chased away people trying to make money off the church, the Bible mentioned that the LOVE of money is Evil. The Bible says bring us tith and eat it, give to the Levite’s(priests). If you house is far away from the church sell your tith( you can see here the tith itself is not important, bringing it to enjoy with the fellow members is the key) God doesn’t need money, he doesn’t. Believe what you want but this here is the truth.


So you would not be one that believes Christ fulfilled the entire law. Romans 7:1-6 means nothing to you. You would side with the Jewish Christians Paul spoke of rather than Gods select, Paul. You would side against the counsel of the Apostles who sides with Paul in Acts 15, and in doing so held believers to Noanic principles. You would disagree with the conclusion in Hebrews 7-8 that says the law has passed and will fade away, new priest, new law.


Just to be clear. You believe The Pentateuch is fully binding on Christians given what is said in James.

Sorry to hear that you will burn in Hell fire because your faith in Christ is not enough alone. Since you believe in the law you are condemned by it. If you hold to one part of the law you are judged by its entirety.


The older I become the more I am convinced that the voice of honor in a man's heart is the voice of GOD.
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Originally Posted by Old_Toot

He’s hardly a middle man. He is the Man .


JC is subordinate to his patriarchal Father.

Originally Posted by RickyD

And starman is hardly a Christian. He is the devil's disciple.


Are you a sinner by being obedient to your God,
or to his adversary?








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Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by Old_Toot

He’s hardly a middle man. He is the Man .


JC is subordinate to his patriarchal Father.

Originally Posted by RickyD

And starman is hardly a Christian. He is the devil's disciple.


Are you a sinner by being obedient to your God,
or his adversary?








“If you have seen Me, you have seen the Father “.


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That does not change the Bible narrative that
JC is subordinate to the Father.

Everything Jesus did was not of himself,
But done at the will/ request, approval or
authority of the Father.

and when the Son comes down to judge,
it will be because he was appointed and
Empowered to do so by... the Father.



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Originally Posted by Starman
That does not change the Bible narrative that
JC is subordinate to the Father.

Everything Jesus did was not of himself,
But done at the request, approval or authority
of the Father.

and when the Son comes down to judge,
it will be because he was appointed and
Empowered to do so by... the Father.



It’s good to see you finally confess your “faith “ and humbling yourself before your fellow man. You’re getting better and you wear it well.

Your points made are well taken. Maybe you’re not a savant to go 180 degrees opposite.


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Don't get carried away, I am just pointing out
Scripture to show how little you know about it.

JC gives all credit to the Father.

JC merely works as a dependent intermediary agency
of the Father.



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