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my 257 Creedmoor started shooting poorer groups so i decided to clean the rifle and take the carbon out. i used J.B. bore cleaning compound its a dirty job but it works ,rifle went back to under a 1/2 inch at 100 yards 5 shot groups,with the 115 gr. black Nosler B.T.. but i still can not get those Black Jack bullets to shoot good consistent groups ,i give up on them with this rifle ? there is a small winter money shoot north of Princeton,Mn. this Sunday at 8 A.M. so i think i will take this 25 Creedmoor,distances are 100-500- yards and it only cost $40.00 and your own ammo to shoot with a free lunch. i would do better with some other rifles but i wanna see what this 25 Creedmoor does out at distances with these 115 GR, black Nosler B.T.,with the ballistic books and and some calculated guess work we will see what happens ?

Sunday i went to the Winter rifle shoot as i expected i shot in the middle of the pack with a rifle i never have shot past 100 yards ,my calculations with using the reloading book were a little wrong my bullets hit high on the targets all day long.but this cartridge did seem to group well with Nosler 115 B.T. hunting bullets with the black coating. you only get 30 shots from a 100 - 500 yards at 2 different targets at each distance,sounds easy its not.at this shoot their are some very good shooters even a 1000 yd. national bench-rest winner and he didn`t win either. we talked about the 131 gr. Black Jack bullets nobody seems to feel these bullets shoot well ,but all think this 25 Creedmoor should shoot well but needs better bullets. i do have some Berger 115 gr 25 caliber bullets on the way to my business ,so that will be the next bullet i will try.whats nice about these Creedmoor cartridges is very little recoil and accurate which does make it more fun to shoot and play with at the rifle range.

Due, not do.

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At least you have some choices, though not what you set out to use. Making good bullets consistently appears to be tough. Maybe they'll catch on after a bit.

Hodgdon claims over 3000 with 115gr Bergers in the 6mm with Stabal6.5 (24"), so I'm calling it good.

> a few target range reloader/shooters claim soon there should be more 25 caliber different target bullets available ? " i sure hope so ?"

GFY=good for you

The Roberts when loaded to modern pressures has no shade really. (+P is good from factory producers) But saami specs on standard ammo leave it anemic. The "creedmore" version would be submitted as a higher pressure spec right from the start.

By the way, Duane Spooner (sp?) of Duane's Gun repair came up with his pet the .257 DGR years ago by necking down the .260R and has reloading data and experience that should make load development for the "25 creedmore" a little easier. Some other options would be the .25 Souper, Dasher, and a couple others. The faster twist barrel should make it a fun project.

i own 5 - 257 Roberts rifles they all shoot just fine. why am i playing with a 25 Creedmoor ? cause i can and good target brass "Lapua brass "
is another factor.

You will find the Bergers to shoot very well. I`ve used them for a number of years in my 250AI. 1x10 twist 26 inch comp. gun at 3K using RL-17. If they don`t, you have a problem other than bullets.
Good Luck

thank you that`s good news ,just got the Berger bullets i ordered so i do plan on loading them. i finally got all the carbon out of my 25 Creedmoor so i am ready again to shoot more.thanks again,Pete53

I had really good results with the Berger 115 in a 257 roberts AI. I was shooting them through a 1/9 PacNor barrel on a Savage target action.

Anyone come up with some load data for the 85-100 grain range of bullets?

i kinda like Reloader 17 in my 257 Roberts and so far in the 25 Creedmoor also. i hope to get out shooting some more ,but since this virus has now got things shut down i have 2 little grandkids age 5 and 7 keeping me busy at my home.

WTF ?

No wonder you can't get the 131gr BJ to shoot !

>99 such a negative reply maybe go see a psychiatrist so you can be a little more positive,life for you might be a little more fun. give up the keyboard tuff guy thing it makes you look foolish.

Yep, I'm the one that looks foolish !

yesterday in Minnesota it was a nice still sunny day ,grandkids stayed home so i shot some 5-shot groups.i loaded up some 115 gr. Berger hunting bullets in used Lapua brass, first group was 3/4 inch brass after shooting those 5 shots the brass looked a little hot ? maybe too much powder so i went down 2 grains, i was using Reloader 17. next groups were all that 1/2 inch 5 shot groups with Reloader 17, brass looked better again afterwards ,i need to try some other powders with these Berger bullet too. i shot 1 group with 131 gr. Black Jack bullets again using same powder and Lapua brass ,first 3 shots were about 1/2 inch but with the next 2 shots ended up with a 1 inch group again. i am having a custom 3 inch forearm block plate made for this rifle should help front of stock side smoother when it recoils back and should hold more solid side to side in my target bench rest ,maybe that will give me some tighter groups too ?
sure wish Walt Berger would have designed some more different grained 25 caliber targets bullets ,i read Walt really liked the 25 caliber.but i do like these 115 gr. hunting Berger bullets they do shoot well as do the Nosler B.T. do also, i do see even better 5 shot group potential with these Berger bullets.