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Anyone used them?
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I don’t trust anything Speer makes to stay on the market very long.
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I know what you mean, I think they introduced the Gold Dot bullet in 1995. I wonder if it's gonna make it.
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I have used the .284 140's for Whitetails with excellent results in a Kimber 7-08. Running the 62 grain .224's in a Kimber Montana .223 but they are not showing the accuracy that I'm looking for. I'm gonna stick with it as I bought a 1000 of them.
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Crap. I also bought 1000 of the 62s to shoot in a pair of Kimber 223s. Haven’t started loading them though.
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I have used the .284 140's for Whitetails with excellent results in a Kimber 7-08. Running the 62 grain .224's in a Kimber Montana .223 but they are not showing the accuracy that I'm looking for. I'm gonna stick with it as I bought a 1000 of them. Looking on the Speer website I see no Gold Dot Bullets in .284/7mm. What am I missing?
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I’ve used them in the 75gr flavor in my 5.56’s and the 140’s in 6.5 CM and 260 Remington. While not the highest bc’s they shot well for me and had good terminal performance out to 450 yds or so.
I would rate them a good average middle of the road bullet, better then most cup and cores but not quite as tough as the higher end bonded stuff. Definitely a fine bullet for most guys uses.
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Last time I looked at their website the GD rifle bullets were designed for defense and law enforcement.
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Ive used, and will continue to use ( cause I stocked up on them...) the 55 grain Gold Dot in the cf .22s
Slowed down they make a good fur friendly load for predator hunting ( about 2600 fps)
At normal speeds Ive used them successfully on deer, black back and pigs with great performance.
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I'm in the middle of testing them in my CZ 7.62x39. Preliminary tests are looking good but, can't finish until the plague scare is over.
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Speer sells them in .224", .264:, .277", .308" and .310".
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Woods walker: would you be so kind as to let use know if that 140 gr 7mm bullet you are using is actually a Speer Gold Dot? If so, I’d like to try to find some. Thanks
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I have used the .284 140's for Whitetails with excellent results in a Kimber 7-08. Running the 62 grain .224's in a Kimber Montana .223 but they are not showing the accuracy that I'm looking for. I'm gonna stick with it as I bought a 1000 of them. Looking on the Speer website I see no Gold Dot Bullets in .284/7mm. What am I missing? Speer sells them in .224", .264:, .277", .308" and .310". Check the Federal Fusion line of ammo. Unless I am mistaken, I'm under the impression that this line of ammunition is using Speer Gold Dots. I see on the Federal web site a 120 & 140 7-08 load. The .224's I bought in bulk from RMR several years ago.
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The Fusions in 6.5/7mm (both 140 grain) have been very accurate for me and hammer deer.
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The factory Speer 75 gr. Gold Dot is extremely accurate out of my AR with a 9 twist. I've got some factory 55 grain Speer Gold Dot ammo I may try in my CZ527 with a 12 twist and see how they shoot. I'd like to load my own with the 75 grain for my AR, but can't seem to find the components anywhere.
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Where is the statement from Speer that these rifle bullets are bonded? I can’t find anything.
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I thought Speer used a plating application process for building the bullet jacket versus bonding a tubular copper jacket to a lead core but the term right or wrong seems to be applied to both methods.
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Where is the statement from Speer that these rifle bullets are bonded? I can’t find anything.
From the speer-ammo website: "Their exclusive manufacturing process bonds the uniform jacket to the core one atom at a time, ensuring proper expansion and nearly 100 percent weight retention. The result is superb accuracy and immediate, threat-stopping performance".
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Last time I looked at their website the GD rifle bullets were designed for defense and law enforcement. So what do you think that means?
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