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My round barrel .50 2.5" isn't very heavy, nicknamed "thumper" for a reason!

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Ben Forkin (Gunsmith from White Sulpher, MT) has a 50-90 Shilo Sharps, or did last I talked to him several years ago. He shot groups with it most would envy with a modern bolt action in a large caliber. He said it worked well on elk and antelope.

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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
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Nice, that round barrel in 50 cal will look like a truck axle! cool it'll be a shooter too.



Naw, they ain't that big. .45-70 with a half and half barrel.
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Originally Posted by tmitch

My round barrel .50 2.5" isn't very heavy, nicknamed "thumper" for a reason!

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Hello tmitch, is that a 36 twist for the 475 gr bullets, or a 22 twist for the 700 grain and up heavies? nice stick.


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I'm guessing 1:22", I get around 1 revolution running a patch through the 26" barrel (23.5" of rifling). So far I've only shot 550 grain flat nosed through it and it's pretty lively on the back end. If I plan on shooting more than a couple rounds I have to put a pussy pad over that steel carbine butplate to keep my shoulder from turning pretty colors. I'd be afeared to throw a 700 grainer out of it like you do yours!


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10-4, probably that big 550gr Lyman or RCBS greaser, one 50-90 weighs 16lbs with the tang sight and is very pleasant with the 715gr paper patch bullets, that said, I have an 11 pound 50-90 that chunks 750gr greasers at 1365 fps for hunting with buckhorn barrel sights, that one boots a little, but, the shotgun butt helps, I wouldn't fire it that way if it wore a military or crescent butt.


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I see I didn’t answer earlier but the Business Rifle has a 1:22 twist.


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Perfect, the mould I sold you will easily adjust from650 to 777 grains with 20 or 16 to 1 alloy, I ran some 777 grain paper patch bullets to 1340 fps in my 50-90, what a HAMMER!


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Originally Posted by tmitch

My round barrel .50 2.5" isn't very heavy, nicknamed "thumper" for a reason!

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Originally Posted by gunner500
Perfect, the mould I sold you will easily adjust from650 to 777 grains with 20 or 16 to 1 alloy, I ran some 777 grain paper patch bullets to 1340 fps in my 50-90, what a HAMMER!


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Originally Posted by pacecars
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Perfect, the mould I sold you will easily adjust from650 to 777 grains with 20 or 16 to 1 alloy, I ran some 777 grain paper patch bullets to 1340 fps in my 50-90, what a HAMMER!


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Not on my end at 16LBS, but, your 22 twist will thrive on 650 plus grain bullets.


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Originally Posted by gunner500
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Perfect, the mould I sold you will easily adjust from650 to 777 grains with 20 or 16 to 1 alloy, I ran some 777 grain paper patch bullets to 1340 fps in my 50-90, what a HAMMER!


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Not on my end at 16LBS, but, your 22 twist will thrive on 650 plus grain bullets.



Not sure what the weight will be I am guessing under 11 lbs which is fine with me since it will be a hunting gun and carried a lot and shot a little at least when hunting. I do plan on shooting it for fun though and may put a lace up pad on it for that. I will want to see if it affects point of aim


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Yes, and even 90 grains of FG would be fine, plenty of power to hunt anything, and much less recoil in a hunting rifle, now 115gr OE FFG under a 750gr greaser at 1365 fps boots a little in an 11 pound hunting weight rifle.


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Gawd almighty.....why man why??


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Gawd almighty.....why man why??


Me?


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Haha! Yes.


115 grains under 750 grains sounds terrible!


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Originally Posted by tmitch

My round barrel .50 2.5" isn't very heavy, nicknamed "thumper" for a reason!

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May I ask what pad you have on it?

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Originally Posted by pacecars
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Hello Big Jim, above is one reason, the other reasons are many, I was told:

You don't need a 50-90...........it's always nice when others tell you what you do and do not need.
The same set of others don't want you to like what they don't like.
Others don't like a rifle they cant shoot well.
Went on to hear, the 50-90.......
Has crap brass
Uses to much lead and powder.
You cant shoot it accurately due to recoil and torque.
The 50-90 wont penetrate.
Others with deeper pockets than you have tried to get a 50-90 to work well and have failed miserably, then sold their rifles.

Well, you see, I took all that as a challenge, I couldn't help but jump on a 50-90 with both boots.
Doing a bit of math as it relates to velocity, diameter, bullet weight and twist, I drew out and designed the above 750gr grease groove bullet and sent it in to have a custom mould made.

That bullet at 16 to 1 alloy went near 9 feet into a bedded 1800 lb Eland bull, my PH said NO other expanding bullet from any sporting arm would have penetrated that far, and penetrated straight I might add.

So I have moved a mountain of negative BS along the way with some help from a few others to have two really good 50-90's, one for hunting, and one for target [gong] shooting, I'm hooked on the Big 50-90 for life, it's a hell of a cartridge. smile

You need one too ; ]


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Originally Posted by Just a Hunter
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My round barrel .50 2.5" isn't very heavy, nicknamed "thumper" for a reason!

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May I ask what pad you have on it?



Action Products Kick-Killer. They come in different sizes, my military butt needed an x-small. Not too pretty but it helps.


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I need one because I don’t have one. It is a natural progression on the pursuit of Buffalo rifles


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