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Has anyone had any experience with the German Colt clones or similar

Safe to say, they get mixed reviews, depending on who the importer is, some importers will demand a higher standard of finish on their offerings. That said, read up over on rimfirecentral, they have a forum for them over there.

A friend bought one of the models that SIG markets and it had a lot of feeding problems... Went back to the factory and now runs 100% with just about everything it is fed...

They look pretty nice, I will do some research

They "feel" cheap to me.

Bumping this back up
Any suggestions for a good 22 training pistol

g44.

G44 for the win!

Beretta mod9 22

anyone that watches that MAC video of the G44 vs the Taurus TX22 would never buy the G44.

..training with/for...?...1911?...Glock...?

I used to shoot a lot of PPC with a revolver but haven’t done much pistol shooting for years now
Want to get a 22 auto to get a decent amount of cheap practice

S&W Victory models are good

Loving my TX 22. Got it back in Sept when Taurus had a $50 rebate, right @ 2 bills.

Been using it to train the daughter. It's similar enough to her P365 to be very useful.

I've been pleased with my Taurus TX22. I posted a review of it somewhere in the handgun forum. Daughter and I ran a couple hundred more rounds through it last evening.

Shooting rimfire is very useful for handgun practice--up to a point. IMHO, the biggest contributors to missing the target with a handgun are the issues associated with recoil. People don't like the recoil impulse, the noise, the flash of light, or they just get the yips about the suddenness of everything happening at once. Shooting rimfire is a great way to "calm down" and focus on trigger pull, grip, stance, etc., but once you go back to shooting centerfire, you're back to facing the thing that's been causing you problems--recoil.

The Glock 44 is not a good choice for a .22lr semi auto. Sure, you get a Glock that's the size of a G19, but that's it. The weight and balance of the two guns are completely different. Shooting the G44 won't make you any better with your G19 than shooting a "real" .22lr pistol would, but at least a real .22lr pistol will be useful in a Bullseye Match.

I have four .22lr handguns. I love shooting them, and they do have a purpose in helping me shoot better. I try to fire at least a magazine of .22 every time I go to the range. But, if you are looking for a "cheap substitute" to get centerfire bullets on target, you're heading in the wrong direction.

Just a different point of view.

I think my G44 is a good trainer for my G19 because:
The trigger is the same, unlike my M&P 22 Compact which is different than my real M&P's.
Mag changes are the same.
Fits the same IWB holster so draws are the same.
The sight picture is the same.

I agree no 22 is going to help you deal with recoil. But shooting my MK IV in steel challenge matches is fun but pointless, the G44 shot from the draw makes more sense to me.
There are a lot of good guns out there and all have their own purposes. Some like the Taurus and the TX22 would be a great choice for those. If I were MAC, I'd send that gun back to Glock just like everyone else does with any other problem pistol, instead of complaining about it. I've found my Buckmark, Ruger's, and S&W to be more problematic than my G44. It'll ride in my HPG kit bag for targets of opportunity when I'm out calling, my G19 will reside in it's normal place.

I appreciate the civil discourse. Here's my view:

The trigger being the same is of minimal value if the rest of the gun is different.

Mag changes are not the same, because the loaded .22 mag is significantly lighter and is being inserted into a pistol that is significantly lighter. The physical dimensions are the same, but the weight changes the game. I think a mag full of dummy 9mm and a G19 is more useful for practicing.

Draws are also different due to the weight reduction. Practice draws at home with a G19 and your loaded mag of dummy ammo. Practice draws at the range with a G19 and real ammo.

Sight picture is the same. True. But...how great is the benefit to that if the weight and balance are different?

Shooting steel challenge--you're right. The G44 trumps using a target pistol.

The one G44 I shot functioned fine, but it's enough of a different gun than the G19 that the "same physical dimensions" weren't enough of a benefit to justify buying one.

Just my two cents--I usually get change back...

"Shooting rimfire is very useful for handgun practice--up to a point. IMHO, the biggest contributors to missing the target with a handgun are the issues associated with recoil."

Waders,

I respectfully disagree. The biggest contributor to missing the target with a pistol in my opinion is a failure to apply the fundamentals. You can see that in any new handgun shooter, with even a .22 Pistol.

After saying that and having a couple of trainers (a Nelson 1911 Conversion, a Taurus TX22, and formerly an Advantage Arms G19 Conversion), And having a couple of other "Serious" 22LR Pistols; If your centerfire is a 9mm, (normally, these times not being 'normal') you can buy about 2,000 rounds to several thousand rounds of 9mm to train with for the cost of a 'conversion' or other 22LR Trainer.

But considering the times, since most ammo shelves are empty of 9mm... perhaps a .22LR pistol is a good option, as long as 22LR ammo remains on the shelf.

Jerry

If I wanted a handgun for the sole purpose of fundamentals I'd get a GP100 in 22LR.

If you insist on an auto I'd go Browning Buckmark and not look back.