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From the Policital today's report
GOP lawmakers are pushing Trump to move more quickly, even as health officials warn of ongoing danger from the pandemic
President Donald Trump is itching to reopen the economy amid the coronavirus pandemic. And congressional Republicans are mostly giving him the green light — and in some cases, leaning on him to speed up.

As Trump alternately agonizes over when to push states to reopen and browbeats governors with questionable claims of his superior authority, GOP lawmakers are urging federal guidance that quickly restarts some industries and begins to roll back unprecedented closures of vast swaths of the United States.

While most Republicans say the country should go slow and take a regional approach, there’s an unmistakable demand building in the party for the president to move forward, according to interviews with more than a dozen GOP members of Congress. It’s a message they’re delivering privately in calls with Trump and his senior advisers, as well as in public op-eds and letters to the administration.


“The president was very unfairly criticized for just [saying] what is indisputably true: ‘We need to make sure the cure isn’t worse than the disease.’ And I am concerned that the cure is worse than the disease,” said Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.). “If you’re a carpenter, every nail you see, the solution’s a hammer. The same may be true for epidemiologists.”

It’s a message at odds with the public health professionals advising Trump, who have warned against the country dropping its guard. But 16 million people are unemployed, Congress is struggling to respond, and Republicans seem to think the worst is close to over. Reviving the economy is also likely to be critical to GOP fortunes in November.

House Republicans have held weekly conference calls where they've eagerly discussed how and when to restart the economy, according to lawmakers and aides.

Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.), chairman of the hard-line House Freedom Caucus, is one of the most vocal GOP lawmakers calling for an aggressive exit strategy. He has expressed those views publicly as well as in numerous texts and phone calls to the White House and GOP leadership.

“It should have happened yesterday,” Biggs said of lifting the lockdowns. “I’m trying to use every bully pulpit I can to make my case.”

Senate Republicans are expected to speak about the economy on Wednesday to top Trump economic adviser Larry Kudlow and Labor Secretary Eugene Scalia, according to two people familiar with the call. While there are differing opinions about how — and when — it should be done, most Republicans agree it’s imperative to start thinking about ways to reopen the country, warning there will be dire economic and even mental health consequences if they don’t.

“We’re extremely unlikely to overwhelm our hospital capacities. In fact, in a matter of days and in some cases the moment may even have passed, that we’ve reached the peak of the rate of infections,” said Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.). “This is a completely unsustainable place we’re in.”

Democrats are perplexed by this line of thinking and seem ready to fight Trump on the basic question of when things should go back to some degree of normal.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) pressed Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country’s top infectious disease expert, on a caucus call last week to describe his vision to the Democrats, according to a source familiar with the interaction. Fauci was noncommittal.

Trump has repeatedly mused about quickly opening things up, even declaring on March 24 that Easter could be a target date before retreating. On Tuesday, he said plans to reopen the country are "close to being finalized, and we will soon be sharing details and new guidelines with everybody."

"The virus' time is the virus' time not a politician's time," countered Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.). "It would be devastating to reopen and go back out against public health officials' advice and then run right back into another situation where the spread starts again and we have to shut things down."

But the president faces little pushback from a wide range of Republican elected officials. They want the president to be cautious, but also want him to keep economists on equal footing with scientists like Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus coordinator.

“I’m a big fan of Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx. I think they’ve done a great job. But their job is public health,” said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas). “We also need to realize that we can't continue like this for a long time without there being enormous personal and economic consequences.”

Not all Republicans want the economy to be weighed equally against combating the disease’s spread. Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) said public health and testing should essentially be the only parameters up for debate.

“We do need to have to see a sustained decline in the number of cases over a 14-day period,” she said. “We really need to ramp up testing. And only then will people have the confidence to go out.”


Both Toomey and Johnson have spoken to Trump about how to get the economy moving again. Toomey wants to quickly but cautiously ramp up idled businesses where social distancing is possible. Johnson worries that lockdowns of factories and food producers could leave stores with bare shelves.

Some House Freedom Caucus members wrote a letter to Trump over the Easter weekend voicing concern that virus-related restrictions on public gatherings infringe on Americans’ religious freedoms. The conservative group has another letter in the works about restarting the economy. Rep. Denver Riggleman (R-Va.) is crafting his own plan, which he intends to send to the president, and has said a decision must be made this month about reopening.

“We can’t do it overnight. There’s no magic answer,” said Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), whose Long Island-area district has been hit hard by the deadly virus. “But we have to be focused on that. Just like we need to be focused on finding a vaccine.”

Others have been more aggressive. Rep. Trey Hollingsworth (R-Ind.) told a local radio station that policymakers need to put on their “big boy and big girl pants and say it is the lesser of these two evils." Biggs and Rep. Ken Buck (R-Colo.) penned an op-ed in the Washington Examiner on Saturday titled: "Is Anthony Fauci helping or hurting?"

“You’re dealing with a lot of hype about fatalities,” Buck said in an interview. “I don’t know anybody that wants to be the person who says, '33,000 deaths is okay, but 100,000 is not acceptable.' But that’s what officials are elected to do.”


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let Fauci live off $600 a week unemployment insurance and then decide how much longer we should stay shut down.

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I agree that the country should go slow and take a regional approach. We are probably gonna have to deal with covid19 on a seasonal basis anyway. I don't think we are going to kill this virus and never see it again.You have to start somewhere. So lets get started getting back to normal where ever possible. Or what ever the new normal is going to be. If we stay shut down for much longer the cure will be worse than the disease.

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Yep
Trump & Republicans should lead the way. Rally Time!
Righteous ones to the front of the line.


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The problem with liberal Democrats is that it's always "all or none" and "one size fits all". They don't understand capitalism at all. It simply does not compute. I'm sure that when the reopening starts, it'll start in the more rural locations with various industries and then build from there. The Dems think that Trump is just going to flip a switch and turn everything on at once.


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Originally Posted by SAcharlie
Yep
Trump & Republicans should lead the way. Rally Time!
Righteous ones to the front of the line.


They can be the first to contact Covid-19, be sick and, maybe be part of the 100,000. Until we are definitely sure that the Corona Virus is is contained, the nation should not re-open and risk a re-emergence of the disease - do we really want to go through this all over again?

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Certainly a rolling opening of the country to those areas less affected could happen immediately. Operate with 6' of distancing, masks and gloves if warranted, and keep promoting handwashing. A quick temp read for incoming employees will weed out the actively sick. Those areas that are hard hit, haven't peaked, or on the upswing should continue as is. Large group gatherings should still be kept at a minimum. This isn't rocket science.


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Originally Posted by CharlieFoxtrot
Certainly a rolling opening of the country to those areas less affected could happen immediately. Operate with 6' of distancing, masks and gloves if warranted, and keep promoting handwashing. A quick temp read for incoming employees will weed out the actively sick. Those areas that are hard hit, haven't peaked, or on the upswing should continue as is. Large group gatherings should still be kept at a minimum. This isn't rocket science.


"A quick temp read for incoming employees will weed out the actively sick."

Keep in mind, that a person can be an active carrier of the Corona Virus for up to 14 days (2 weeks) and not show active assumptions (e.g., temperature or coughing). Meanwhile, they are spreading the virus to everything they touch - counter tops, paper money, cardboard boxes and cans in stores, door handles, golf carts, eating utensils, etc.

How many people might touch a contaminated surface and then transmit it to others? How many people might the infected person contact in one day, much less 14?

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Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by SAcharlie
Yep
Trump & Republicans should lead the way. Rally Time!
Righteous ones to the front of the line.


They can be the first to contact Covid-19, be sick and, maybe be part of the 100,000. Until we are definitely sure that the Corona Virus is is contained, the nation should not re-open and risk a re-emergence of the disease - do we really want to go through this all over again?


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Originally Posted by SAcharlie
Yep
Trump & Republicans should lead the way. Rally Time!
Righteous ones to the front of the line.


They can be the first to contact Covid-19, be sick and, maybe be part of the 100,000. Until we are definitely sure that the Corona Virus is is contained, the nation should not re-open and risk a re-emergence of the disease - do we really want to go through this all over again?


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2. Non-essential but still getting paid.
3. School teacher
4. Have an IQ over 80


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Let all the smart MF’s in Congress decide. He can’t be blamed then!

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Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by CharlieFoxtrot
Certainly a rolling opening of the country to those areas less affected could happen immediately. Operate with 6' of distancing, masks and gloves if warranted, and keep promoting handwashing. A quick temp read for incoming employees will weed out the actively sick. Those areas that are hard hit, haven't peaked, or on the upswing should continue as is. Large group gatherings should still be kept at a minimum. This isn't rocket science.

"A quick temp read for incoming employees will weed out the actively sick."
Keep in mind, that a person can be an active carrier of the Corona Virus for up to 14 days (2 weeks) and not show active assumptions (e.g., temperature or coughing). Meanwhile, they are spreading the virus to everything they touch - counter tops, paper money, cardboard boxes and cans in stores, door handles, golf carts, eating utensils, etc.

How many people might touch a contaminated surface and then transmit it to others? How many people might the infected person contact in one day, much less 14?


How many have had this badass virus and never knew it?


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Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by CharlieFoxtrot
Certainly a rolling opening of the country to those areas less affected could happen immediately. Operate with 6' of distancing, masks and gloves if warranted, and keep promoting handwashing. A quick temp read for incoming employees will weed out the actively sick. Those areas that are hard hit, haven't peaked, or on the upswing should continue as is. Large group gatherings should still be kept at a minimum. This isn't rocket science.

"A quick temp read for incoming employees will weed out the actively sick."
Keep in mind, that a person can be an active carrier of the Corona Virus for up to 14 days (2 weeks) and not show active assumptions (e.g., temperature or coughing). Meanwhile, they are spreading the virus to everything they touch - counter tops, paper money, cardboard boxes and cans in stores, door handles, golf carts, eating utensils, etc.

How many people might touch a contaminated surface and then transmit it to others? How many people might the infected person contact in one day, much less 14?


How many have had this badass virus and never knew it?


If we are to believe the Boston homeless shelter study, less than 1 (ONE) % of the people that tested positive for the virus presented with a fever. All of 7% presented with a cough.

So much for screening people by checking for a fever....

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.12.20059618v1


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I still personally don't know anybody that has it.

Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by CharlieFoxtrot
Certainly a rolling opening of the country to those areas less affected could happen immediately. Operate with 6' of distancing, masks and gloves if warranted, and keep promoting handwashing. A quick temp read for incoming employees will weed out the actively sick. Those areas that are hard hit, haven't peaked, or on the upswing should continue as is. Large group gatherings should still be kept at a minimum. This isn't rocket science.

"A quick temp read for incoming employees will weed out the actively sick."
Keep in mind, that a person can be an active carrier of the Corona Virus for up to 14 days (2 weeks) and not show active assumptions (e.g., temperature or coughing). Meanwhile, they are spreading the virus to everything they touch - counter tops, paper money, cardboard boxes and cans in stores, door handles, golf carts, eating utensils, etc.

How many people might touch a contaminated surface and then transmit it to others? How many people might the infected person contact in one day, much less 14?


How many have had this badass virus and never knew it?






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Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by SAcharlie
Yep
Trump & Republicans should lead the way. Rally Time!
Righteous ones to the front of the line.


They can be the first to contact Covid-19, be sick and, maybe be part of the 100,000. Until we are definitely sure that the Corona Virus is is contained, the nation should not re-open and risk a re-emergence of the disease - do we really want to go through this all over again?



so your solution is to shut the country down every winter all winter..?


because until you get the majority of people exposed and having some degree of immunity , you are going to have serious outbreaks of the disease.........

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Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by SAcharlie
Yep
Trump & Republicans should lead the way. Rally Time!
Righteous ones to the front of the line.


They can be the first to contact Covid-19, be sick and, maybe be part of the 100,000. Until we are definitely sure that the Corona Virus is is contained, the nation should not re-open and risk a re-emergence of the disease - do we really want to go through this all over again?


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4. Have an IQ over 80



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Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by SAcharlie
Yep
Trump & Republicans should lead the way. Rally Time!
Righteous ones to the front of the line.


They can be the first to contact Covid-19, be sick and, maybe be part of the 100,000. Until we are definitely sure that the Corona Virus is is contained, the nation should not re-open and risk a re-emergence of the disease - do we really want to go through this all over again?


You can't contain a virus. The purpose of quarintine was to insure that medical facilities weren't overwhelmed by everyone getting it at one time.

Whether that worked are not is akin to debating whether SUV taxes save polar bears.


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Sure is a lot of folks believing all this virus BS.. It's just another version of the flu.. The flu kills about 60K people on average every year.. Was the country shut down for the flu? No. Apparently, Sweden did nothing special.. Left things alone - and the percentage of people dying from this closely matches the standard flu..

This whole BS thing is the MSM and various governments exercising their long-dormant plans to push us down to where the 'gov't will take care of you' - i.e., communist socialism..

EFF that... Reagan was right - "Gov't is not the solution, gov't is the PROBLEM!"


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Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by SAcharlie
Yep
Trump & Republicans should lead the way. Rally Time!
Righteous ones to the front of the line.


They can be the first to contact Covid-19, be sick and, maybe be part of the 100,000. Until we are definitely sure that the Corona Virus is is contained, the nation should not re-open and risk a re-emergence of the disease - do we really want to go through this all over again?

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