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New York to "ADD" 4,000 DEATHS #14786632 04/15/20
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just saw on Fox, didn't catch all of it, but sounds like, if you had issues with the number before, you will have more now. adding cases of death where the dead people were never tested?

we might make 500,000 in the U.S., after all

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Re: New York to "ADD" 4,000 DEATHS [Re: kid0917] #14786646 04/15/20
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Re: New York to "ADD" 4,000 DEATHS [Re: kid0917] #14786659 04/15/20
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More fake BS

Re: New York to "ADD" 4,000 DEATHS [Re: kid0917] #14786674 04/15/20
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I missed it, is this about the BIG spike in "heart attack" deaths in NYC?

https://moguldom.com/271361/massive...-seen-as-sign-of-undercounting-covid-19/

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The medical examiner’s office is not testing dead bodies for COVID-19, The Gothamist reported. Instead, they’re referring suspected cases to the city’s health department as “probable.” This means that the official death count in NYC is likely far lower than the real coronavirus death toll, according to public health officials.

The counting discrepancy means victims without access to testing are not being counted. There’s a good chance that undiagnosed coronavirus deaths are being treated as cardiac arrests and won’t be included in the official coronavirus death toll.

The New York Fire Department, which operates emergency medical services, confirmed a huge rise in cardiac arrest deaths at home before first responders can transport a person to the hospital.

Between March 20 and April 5, the fire department recorded almost 2,200 such home deaths — about 130 a day — versus 450 for the whole period in 2019, according to data it provided on Friday.

That’s almost a 400 percent increase of cardiac arrest home deaths, according to the FDNY, NBC New York reported.


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Re: New York to "ADD" 4,000 DEATHS [Re: kid0917] #14786683 04/15/20
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Don't know anything about that. I do know it's in every county of NYS now and growing daily. We were at 180,000 cases statewide on Easter and up to 202,000 today.

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Re: New York to "ADD" 4,000 DEATHS [Re: kid0917] #14786706 04/15/20
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Did a rewind on it.... confirmed deaths 6,840..... "probable" another 4,059.... so, yeah they are going to jump the corona death total to 10,899 for NY City.....

Re: New York to "ADD" 4,000 DEATHS [Re: kid0917] #14786711 04/15/20
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Found it.

https://news.yahoo.com/york-city-revises-coronavirus-death-205328540.html

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On Tuesday, the city's health department released a revised COVID-19 death count that included those who were not tested but were presumed to have died from the disease. That added an additional 3,700 people, bumping the city's total count well over 10,000 coronavirus fatalities.


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The previous death count only included people who had tested positive for COVID-19, but New York City's health department had been recording presumptive cases, the Times reports.


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Re: New York to "ADD" 4,000 DEATHS [Re: kid0917] #14787023 04/15/20
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All about the Federal Dollars involved in CV cases.

Re: New York to "ADD" 4,000 DEATHS [Re: kid0917] #14787098 04/15/20
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King Cuomo also passed an Executive Order today beginning Friday, anyone out in public now has to wear some type of face covering over your nose and mouth.

Re: New York to "ADD" 4,000 DEATHS [Re: kid0917] #14788635 04/15/20
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I’m assuming any deaths recorded within the CV19 dates will indeed be attributable to the virus. GSW, auto accidents, domestic disputes et al. Hey trust us...we’re the government and we’re here to help!


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Re: New York to "ADD" 4,000 DEATHS [Re: Blackheart] #14788660 04/15/20
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Originally Posted by Blackheart
Don't know anything about that. I do know it's in every county of NYS now and growing daily. We were at 180,000 cases statewide on Easter and up to 202,000 today.


Chicken feed, BH, chicken feed. wink


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Re: New York to "ADD" 4,000 DEATHS [Re: kid0917] #14788681 04/15/20
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The government ISN'T counting deaths in nursing homes or Veteran's facility's... No one is requiring them to report anything and in fact most are trying to hide information on these deaths.

Personally I believe the administration has hog tied quite a few and in fact the numbers are way under reported throughout the country. The same way that they required the Military to stop reporting numbers or locations.

New York along with a few other states have taken it upon them selves out of necessity to go in and report on the conditions at these places themselves.


If you want to look at things being done wrong... look no further than South Dakota's governor who like trump thinks it will all go away with a wave of the hand and just disappear as if in a miracle.

You'd think news of mass graves within the U.S. would case all this to sink in... but still quite a few figure it cant or won't happen to them or anyone close to them.

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Re: New York to "ADD" 4,000 DEATHS [Re: rong] #14788759 04/15/20
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Originally Posted by rong
All about the Federal Dollars involved in CV cases.


^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^

Any Democratic politician who can, will be sucking the Federal tit for every last cent, while denouncing DJT every chance he or she gets.

Re: New York to "ADD" 4,000 DEATHS [Re: kid0917] #14788859 04/16/20
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Originally Posted by kid0917
just saw on Fox, didn't catch all of it, but sounds like, if you had issues with the number before, you will have more now. adding cases of death where the dead people were never tested?

we might make 500,000 in the U.S., after all

This is a bunch of pandering bull squat.

Autopsies and viral tests are very seldom performed upon the bodies of those who die of natural causes. The attending physician makes a diagnosis before death and that is listed as COD on the death certificate.

We have heard from several sources that pneumonia caused by C-19 is dissimilar to pneumonia caused by other pathogens. Thus C-19 pneumonia is typically properly diagnosed. What more could we expect from our medical community.

How about just a little bit of thought and some common sense in these discussions?


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That each person may reap as he/she has sown.
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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by kid0917
just saw on Fox, didn't catch all of it, but sounds like, if you had issues with the number before, you will have more now. adding cases of death where the dead people were never tested?

we might make 500,000 in the U.S., after all

This is a bunch of pandering bull squat.

Autopsies and viral tests are very seldom performed upon the bodies of those who die of natural causes. The attending physician makes a diagnosis before death and that is listed as COD on the death certificate.

We have heard from several sources that pneumonia caused by C-19 is dissimilar to pneumonia caused by other pathogens. Thus C-19 pneumonia is typically properly diagnosed. What more could we expect from our medical community.

How about just a little bit of thought and some common sense in these discussions?


Well, you have to admit that there are very few hard/proven facts about COVID-19, so all sides are free to make claims, or cite data/evidence, that is often more speculative than actual. Add that to the general distrust between conservatives and liberals and you have a fertile ground for extreme positions.

I had hoped that a shared experience would bring us together as a Nation, like the physical attacks on 12/07/41 and 09/11/01 did, but the vitriol spewing and finger-pointing by the Democrats would make the most patient of men angry and POTUS isn't the most patient of men. DJT has been under attack since the moment that the Democrats realized that HRC had lost the 2016 Presidential Election, so the liberal programs initiated by BHO wouldn't be continued Thus began their vile attacks on the POTUS-elect, who they have made it their mission to discredit any way possible.

We didn't know, actually know, the level of threat that COVID-19 posed before Thanksgiving and we still only know a fraction of what we'll learn about it in the next few months. According the USN, the great majority of the sailors who have tested positive for COVID-19 on the USS Theodore Roosevelt have been asymptomatic. The fact that NYC has added over 3,700 people to the list of deaths attributed to COVID-19, despite the fact that they were never tested for the disease is concerning to me. That looks like someone in the NYC Health Department is padding the number of COVID-19 deaths and that sort of behavior corrupts the data and makes it harder for infectious disease experts to make informed recommendations and for leaders to make informed decisions.

Or so it seems to me.

Re: New York to "ADD" 4,000 DEATHS [Re: gkt5450] #14789448 04/16/20
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Originally Posted by gkt5450
I’m assuming any deaths recorded within the CV19 dates will indeed be attributable to the virus. GSW, auto accidents, domestic disputes et al. Hey trust us...we’re the government and we’re here to help!


from what I hear, gsw and auto accidents are way down.


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...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
Re: New York to "ADD" 4,000 DEATHS [Re: kid0917] #14789459 04/16/20
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Padding the #,s against President Trump for political sensationalism......

Never let a good crisis go to waste....


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More deaths means more money from China. At least they are hoping so.



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It's interesting that some on here have become propaganda mouthpieces for the left, dutifully repeating every leftist media claim against Trump and common sense, in defense of an increasingly untenable position.


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Can we pick some of the names for the extra $4,000 and then make them dead?

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