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This is a really well done mini-series

I haven't read the books that it's based on but I'd be curious to know how close it sticks to original stories.

It doesn't show the Clinton era FBI and ATF in a good light. At all.


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So you're saying the people involved in this show are going to hang themselves?

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I haven't seen the series yet. I will check it out.

I was in Billings during the Freemen stand off in Jordan, Mt, what a clusterfug.

The ATF , FBI learned a lesson from Waco and didn't try the same heavy handed tactics against the Freemen. Janet Reno and the Clintons were out of control and running amuck at the time......

The funniest thing I remember from it was the reporters complaining about the accommodations in Jordan, they were hating life... hahahaha

I believe a car load of reporters skidded off a snowy road and crashed, several hurt and If I remember correct someone died I believe? They were headed to Lincoln to cover the capture of Uni-bomber.
Good times ... LOL


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Originally Posted by irfubar
I haven't seen the series yet. I will check it out.

I was in Billings during the Freemen stand off in Jordan, Mt, what a clusterfug.

The ATF , FBI learned a lesson from Waco and didn't try the same heavy handed tactics against the Freemen. Janet Reno and the Clintons were out of control and running amuck at the time......

The funniest thing I remember from it was the reporters complaining about the accommodations in Jordan, they were hating life... hahahaha

I believe a car load of reporters skidded off a snowy road and crashed, several hurt and If I remember correct someone died I believe? They were headed to Lincoln to cover the capture of Uni-bomber.
Good times ... LOL


A high school chum ( reenacting bud) was the main legal councel that apparently was instrumental in diffusing that Freemen situation. An interesting and controversial individual to say the least.


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I got thru the first episode - already has the sniper at Ruby Ridge and doesn't make him out to be a hero


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Originally Posted by deflave



It doesn't show the Clinton era FBI and ATF in a good light. At all.

I don't see how they could without making it pure fiction.


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Originally Posted by deflave

It doesn't show the Clinton era FBI and ATF in a good light. At all.



Yep...its not possible to show them in a good light...


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Originally Posted by irfubar

The ATF , FBI learned a lesson from Waco and didn't try the same heavy handed tactics against the Freemen. Janet Reno and the Clintons were out of control and running amuck at the time......





That whole deal was a feasibility study too..." Can we do this and get away with it?"


The answer was 'no'...but they got away with the Oklahoma City Bombing...


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I’m watching it. The government is definitely portrayed as incompetent/unethical.

I see no reason to limit that perception of how things are done to the Clinton Administration. The recent Russian Collusion fiasco shows things haven’t changed much.

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Janet Reno fiasco epic-fail.


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Originally Posted by deflave
This is a really well done mini-series

I haven't read the books that it's based on but I'd be curious to know how close it sticks to original stories.

It doesn't show the Clinton era FBI and ATF in a good light. At all.




There's no good light to show.


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Originally Posted by poboy
Janet Reno fiasco epic-fail.



She did a lot of damage during her tenure.

In the end, Parkinson's got her at 78.


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One common thread in all the recent dark history of the FBI...Louis Freeh. You don't need to go to any tinfoil brigade websites for info. Just go to Wikipedia and "Louis Freeh career". It's all there by a left leaning resource, Waco, Ruby Ridge, Khobar Towers, Lockerbie, Freemen, etc etc. This guy is an evil son of a bitch.


Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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Who else cheered when that big bald headed dude came down the hall with the AR and ran those government bastards back out onto the damned roof and then shot them off of it?

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Originally Posted by irfubar
I haven't seen the series yet. I will check it out.

I was in Billings during the Freemen stand off in Jordan, Mt, what a clusterfug.

The ATF , FBI learned a lesson from Waco and didn't try the same heavy handed tactics against the Freemen. Janet Reno and the Clintons were out of control and running amuck at the time......

The funniest thing I remember from it was the reporters complaining about the accommodations in Jordan, they were hating life... hahahaha

I believe a car load of reporters skidded off a snowy road and crashed, several hurt and If I remember correct someone died I believe? They were headed to Lincoln to cover the capture of Uni-bomber.
Good times ... LOL



Remember the T shirt that came out after the Freeman deal that read "At Least Our Cows Aren't Crazy" in reference to Montana having psycho bombers and militia men "run amok" but no mad cow disease?

Crazy times.

Add in the Oklahoma bombing and things were pretty screwed up for constitutionally minded Americans.

...And lets not forget Ruby Ridge. What a travesty of abject Tyranny from the get go.


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It doesn't show the Clinton era FBI and ATF in a good light. At all.

I don't see how they could without making it pure fiction.


That hasn't stopped the entertainment industry in the past.

My point was that it was nice to see a show that didn't pull any punches.


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The Linda Thompson vids were all I needed to see.

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Originally Posted by deflave
This is a really well done mini-series

I haven't read the books that it's based on but I'd be curious to know how close it sticks to original stories.

It doesn't show the Clinton era FBI and ATF in a good light. At all.


I liked it

The Unibomber is a good one to watch as well


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Originally Posted by hookeye
The Linda Thompson vids were all I needed to see.


I'm not familiar with those.


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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by deflave
This is a really well done mini-series

I haven't read the books that it's based on but I'd be curious to know how close it sticks to original stories.

It doesn't show the Clinton era FBI and ATF in a good light. At all.


I liked it

The Unibomber is a good one to watch as well


If you like the Unabomber series you should check out the documentary that has his recordings and they interview his neighbors.


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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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