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Looking do to a lil spring/summer calling this year and I want to drop the coyotes where they stand. My go to in the 243 has always been the 75gr sierra hollow point but I'm currently out of em. I do have on hand a box each of 55gr varmegeddon's and 70gr nosler ballistic tips. Which ones gonna make a bigger mess? I'm thinking the 70gr would be a lil more accurate out of my rifle.
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you didn't say if you want to waste them by making a mess or not..
I can tell you if you don't want to make a mess, and save the hide...either one of them will work fine, if they are slowed down to under 2700 fps MV.... they will more act like a soft point at the lower velocities..
other wise, it would be just easier to buy another box of bullets, like an 80 or 85 grainer... Speer makes a nice 75 grain HP also... and I have a lifetime stash of the good old Hornady 75 gr HP...
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By far the most destructive bullet I have used is the Speer TNT. Accuracy was very acceptable. Do not plan on selling many hides.
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I wanna see a red mist through the scope.
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If you want to see a mist on a coyote I would say an 85 grain Speer BTSP might be your best bet. Won't happen every shot though.
Otherwise that 70 grain Ballistic Tip is a hell of a coyote bullet.
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I've shot 70 gr nosler ballistic tips for the last two years, and they hammer coyotes. You don't have to worry about runners or spinners, because they put them down fast.
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100grNP: Go with that 70 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip for the results you desire - I use them with graphic results on Rock Chucks. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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Off the top of my head I think the 75 gr. V-Max on shoulder shots would be the absolutely biggest mess I've made of coyotes.
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Look no further than the 70 grain ballistic tips if you have them on hand. The 70 grain speer TNT works great also and used to be very economical in bulk. Those are the two bullets I have shot the most in the 243.
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By far the most destructive bullet I have used is the Speer TNT. Accuracy was very acceptable. Do not plan on selling many hides. The old 58gr v-max at 4150 fps was the worst I ever studied, what a ribcage BOMB!
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Try an 87 VMAX and hook some bone going in.
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I killed a lot of coyotes with 70 gr nosler bt. As stated above, they work very well. Killed a big mule deer, and 3 or 4 black bears with em too. Everything died quick.
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For me it is the Sierra 70gr Blitzking, one of the most accurate 243 Bullets ever and really come undone on varmints and predators
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I have not messed with the .243 nor std 6mm Rem, but I have shot a 6mm Rem Improved a bit, a .240 a bit, and spent several years with a slow twist varminter in 6x.284. The 70 grain ballistic tip was my go-to bullet in the 1-14" twist. At 3850 fps it was pretty explosive. I played with the 55 grain ballistic tip, 58 grain VMAX, 65 grain VMAX, and 75 grain VMAX. The 65 and lighter were more explosive. The 58 was an absolute bomb at about 4200 fps. None were particularly accurate other than the 70s so I had to get within 100 yards or so to use them. The shorter distance meant even higher impact velocity which no doubt contributed to the splatter.
If it were me, I'd try the 70 grain ballistic tip, 70 grain blitzking, and 65 grain vmax for balance of BC, velocity, and serious splatter.
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For maximum expansion, my vote is either Blitz King or VMAX. For a critter the size of a coyote, I would use either the 70 grain Blitz King or the 75 grain VMAX. I have killed a bunch of woodchucks with the 75 grain VMAX and they sure expanded. I found Blitz Kings to be as explosive or perhaps a bit more explosive than the Hornady VMAXs. Ballistic Tips were less explosive than either of those.
I used the 85 grain Sierra HPBT on quite a few woodchucks in the 243 and used the 25 caliber 90 grain Sierra HPBT in my 25-06 quite a bit. Most times both bullets blew on through a big chuck and left a fist-size hole. That was before the plastic point bullets were around.
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By far the most destructive bullet I have used is the Speer TNT. Accuracy was very acceptable. Do not plan on selling many hides. The old 58gr v-max at 4150 fps was the worst I ever studied, what a ribcage BOMB! The old Sierra 60 grain HP, running in the 4000 to 4150 fps range MV, would impress ya then Jerry.
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By far the most destructive bullet I have used is the Speer TNT. Accuracy was very acceptable. Do not plan on selling many hides. The old 58gr v-max at 4150 fps was the worst I ever studied, what a ribcage BOMB! The old Sierra 60 grain HP, running in the 4000 to 4150 fps range MV, would impress ya then Jerry. 10-4 Buddy, I remember both coyotes I hit with that load, the one mentioned was a hard quartering away shot amongst some cattle, the bullet hit the guts in front of the ham and exited offside ribs, everything was simply gone, you could have laid a football in that hole. The other, I guess I shot him in the balls walking away, again, in and shooting around cattle, completely unzipped his innards, made two and a half counter clockwise circles biting at his guts, I remember seeing the flash of his teeth in the morning light on each revolution, he looked like he was trying to drill himself into the ground. Fragile bullets at high speed on light built vermin are always spectacular.
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The only bullet I can comment on is the 70 Nosler. They work.
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I think the most destructive 6mm bullet I ever used was the 60gr Sierra HP. They will blow a large groundhog in two, and leave a 5yd trail of innards through the grass. Foxes pretty much meat and hair.
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I think the most destructive 6mm bullet I ever used was the 60gr Sierra HP. They will blow a large groundhog in two, and leave a 5yd trail of innards through the grass. Foxes pretty much meat and hair. I will second the Sierra 60 gr HP, they were very destructive. I would also look at the 55 Blitzking, they look nasty!
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