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#1481504 - 06/11/07 Huge .264 Bullet Test with lots of pics  
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Here's a .264 bullet test I did on the Canadian Gun Nutz site with bullets supplied by the members. I was going to do a bullet test in wet newspaper with a few bullets I had but figured it be nice to have a broader selection. I asked the members to send me a few of their favorite .264 bullets or whatever they had on hand. I loaded them to duplicate impact velocity of modern 6.5X55 loads at 100yds. Test media was wet newspaper....lots of wet newspaper!!

See results two post below.

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#1481577 - 06/11/07 Re: Huge .264 Bullet Test with lots of pics [Re: BCSteve]  
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I'd LOVE to see results but you have to become a member to view...

Try copy and paste of the actual post on here....


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#1481627 - 06/11/07 Re: Huge .264 Bullet Test with lots of pics [Re: GregW]  
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Oops! I guest that didn't work. Here you go guys, I re-did the whole thing just for you wink.

There it is!!

The line up:
[Linked Image]


- The impact velocity was made to duplicate modern 6.5X55 loads at 100 yds.
- Expansion was measured at the widest part of the bullet. Take a look at the pictures when comparing the expansion of different bullets, sometime a sliver of lead or copper at an odd angle can give deceptive results.
- Test rifle: Winchester Model 70 Featherweight 6.5X55 Swed
- Test media: Wet newspaper....lots of wet newspaper!!
- Disclaimer: I know wet newspaper does not give identical result to flesh and bones, blah, blah, blah....

Speer 90gr TNT
Average Penetration (inches): 10.17
Average Weight Retained (grain): 28.3
Average Weight Retained (%): 31
Average Expansion (inches): 0.549
[Linked Image]
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Hornady 95gr V-MAX
Average Penetration (inches): 6.25
Average Weight Retained (grain): 34.1
Average Weight Retained (%): 36
Average Expansion (inches): 0.470
[Linked Image]
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Barnes 100gr X
Average Penetration (inches): 16.67
Average Weight Retained (grain): 83
Average Weight Retained (%): 83
Average Expansion (inches): 0.423
[Linked Image]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p3cc4a5bfe410615c14b5980a76dbdda4/e91a24e8.jpg[/img]

Nosler 120gr Ballistic Tip
Average Penetration (inches): 10.30
Average Weight Retained (grain): 74.4
Average Weight Retained (%): 62
Average Expansion (inches): 0.643
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p79ee860549a2f5ce66e20c712542c676/e91a2390.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pa049a5abfc49b0dc7567484ae765a1df/e91a225e.jpg[/img]

Barnes 120gr X
Average Penetration (inches): 14.42
Average Weight Retained (grain): 114.5
Average Weight Retained (%): 95
Average Expansion (inches): 0.586
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pcee3fbbf29e54dea0b87529a00096a8f/e91a2159.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p6d9ef32cb3fa7dce08f263c324bd7b76/e91a2038.jpg[/img]

Barnes 120gr TSX
Average Penetration (inches): 13.67
Average Weight Retained (grain): 120.1
Average Weight Retained (%): 100
Average Expansion (inches): 0.592
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pee7003dd2fd702460a4070a20b88cfe8/e91a1f79.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pc37c5445dc1bb3e39cecb6fece93a855/e91a1e1a.jpg[/img]

Alberta Wildcat 120gr HP
Average Penetration (inches): 11.17
Average Weight Retained (grain): 49.2
Average Weight Retained (%): 41
Average Expansion (inches): 0.704
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pec0111709980500fb5bdcddeb1696d5d/e91a1d32.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p67b23f262ba131943bf448397e4d8e27/e91a1c05.jpg[/img]

Alberta Wildcat 125gr SP
Average Penetration (inches): 10.17
Average Weight Retained (grain): 73.3
Average Weight Retained (%): 59
Average Expansion (inches): 0.712
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p824f9f72792a1ddb535b1abd7a5362c9/e91a1920.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p4ea857e315ce024179da8f240ec46518/e91a17ae.jpg[/img]

Nosler 125gr Partition
Average Penetration (inches): 15
Average Weight Retained (grain): 88.5
Average Weight Retained (%): 71
Average Expansion (inches): 0.614
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pa256e28e2f54df2484b5fb82c98d2695/e91a16c1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pf22a929cc6b2a7c2961816e3053161a8/e91a160f.jpg[/img]

Hornady 129gr SP IL
Average Penetration (inches): 13.08
Average Weight Retained (grain): 90.5
Average Weight Retained (%): 70
Average Expansion (inches): 0.626
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pf61d2686d2e4cdd2886fb76daccb7aa7/e91a155b.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pac8ba7c2e34e3a58577d52ce38f40237/e91a1508.jpg[/img]

Barnes 130gr TSX
Average Penetration (inches): 18
Average Weight Retained (grain): 129.9
Average Weight Retained (%): 100
Average Expansion (inches): 0.552
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p231383749c63147d4567c1ab48ac57ad/e91a143e.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pc44b4f670f17d97b5b746e8e8115e5a6/e91a136d.jpg[/img]

Lapua 140gr Naturalist
Average Penetration (inches): 16.5
Average Weight Retained (grain): 136.6
Average Weight Retained (%): 98
Average Expansion (inches): 0.556
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pd81a5788bfe8c6ccaafa4851eb53d93c/e91a1299.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p3051ec55622b14bfd23615319f4d924a/e91a11fa.jpg[/img]

Hornady 140gr SP IL
Average Penetration (inches): 13.75
Average Weight Retained (grain): 78.7
Average Weight Retained (%): 56
Average Expansion (inches): 0.524
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p0496f01beeff4c0d6cef99152b3b0295/e91a10b7.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p363d5a19a88ef2b2ed01b7ec7770a6a0/e91a0f9f.jpg[/img]

Hornady 140gr SST
Average Penetration (inches): 13.25
Average Weight Retained (grain): 95.5
Average Weight Retained (%): 68
Average Expansion (inches): 0.695
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pcce0f62772a7b1e349e843dd62adfa34/e91a0ee6.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p026aabde6a056a700883ad53ddc5ba43/e91a0e58.jpg[/img]

Hornady 140gr A-MAX
Average Penetration (inches): 12.17
Average Weight Retained (grain): 75.9
Average Weight Retained (%): 54
Average Expansion (inches): 0.597
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p47817ac7fa3818dd7fce0a8f8fe4d70c/e91a0db3.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p89169bcf74ff9cfcb5e6a4391a4e91b1/e91a0c11.jpg[/img]

Nosler 140gr Partition
Average Penetration (inches): 15.17
Average Weight Retained (grain): 108.6
Average Weight Retained (%): 78
Average Expansion (inches): 0.629
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p800a11845ff6308615bb406f547ec21c/e91a0b93.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p3a735a54b70efb94b6a76c7a23aa7584/e91a0a86.jpg[/img]

Sierra 142gr Match King
Average Penetration (inches): 14.25
Average Weight Retained (grain): 40.7
Average Weight Retained (%): 29
Average Expansion (inches): 0.445
** First bullet disintegrated and not significant pieces were recovered.
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pf1b30952591473d465466d2d0c3127bf/e919fe9e.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p59f253d318157c90a6b5303f7ce65168/e919fd68.jpg[/img]

Alberta Wildcat 142.5 VLD
Average Penetration (inches): 12.17
Average Weight Retained (grain): 45.2
Average Weight Retained (%): 32
Average Expansion (inches): 0.598
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p97a007b28e1a14034975e089ccae5ccf/e919fbc8.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p9df16dad3d0313f9cf545082ff11531b/e919faff.jpg[/img]

Lapua 156gr Mega
Average Penetration (inches): 14.92
Average Weight Retained (grain): 120.9
Average Weight Retained (%): 78
Average Expansion (inches): 0.629
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p1d97d1710770019914c7f1562a3bffbf/e919fa44.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pe3c90d8d0380950b065aa9b4f98b3d32/e919f95b.jpg[/img]

Norma 156gr RN
Average Penetration (inches): 14.67
Average Weight Retained (grain): 89.6
Average Weight Retained (%): 57
Average Expansion (inches): 0.592
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p36c4ad2049066a253b7f92d3a04a796b/e919f812.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pbf2123771b95243a3b4ef498c3a58af0/e919f786.jpg[/img]

Hornady 160gr RN IL
Average Penetration (inches): 13.92
Average Weight Retained (grain): 117.6
Average Weight Retained (%): 74
Average Expansion (inches): 0.694
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pcacaefeb2043d93f55388fc26b23f34a/e919f67f.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pe45b4ee08078d1d8ad2eb3160ce6a49e/e919f4cc.jpg[/img]

Sierra 160gr SMP
Average Penetration (inches): 13.17
Average Weight Retained (grain): 76.4
Average Weight Retained (%): 48
Average Expansion (inches): 0.539
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pe50cbb0d19b5572a0916443c8bb1c155/e919f413.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pb0a183542ac2721036128248e06e40d1/e919f1ad.jpg[/img]

Alberta Wildcat 168gr VLD
Average Penetration (inches): 13.17
Average Weight Retained (grain): 76.4
Average Weight Retained (%): 48
Average Expansion (inches): 0.539
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pe00e4fbe342e4678bb08b4958734108c/e919f07d.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pfb9eef702933c0ec2449ff8308b7be26/e919efe2.jpg[/img]

Approximate impact velocity:
90-100gr.............2850-2900fps
120gr..................2750-2800fps
125gr..................2600-2700fps
129-130gr............2550-2600fps
140gr-142.5gr.......2500-2550fps
156-160gr............2400-2500fps
168gr..................2300-2400fps

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#1481637 - 06/11/07 Re: Huge .264 Bullet Test with lots of pics [Re: BCSteve]  
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Steve,

Really appreciate all the hard work. Thanks a bunch for a good post.


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#1481697 - 06/11/07 Re: Huge .264 Bullet Test with lots of pics [Re: SU35]  
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Great Test,Looks like I'm good with the 100 grn X's in my 260,& 130 tsx's in my 264.

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#1481709 - 06/11/07 Re: Huge .264 Bullet Test with lots of pics [Re: SU35]  
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Great job and excellent info.............[Linked Image]



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#1481766 - 06/11/07 Re: Huge .264 Bullet Test with lots of pics [Re: jwp475]  
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Boy, that 140gr Amax produced pretty well and surprised me. I also found it odd that the 100gr X out penetrated many of the heavier specimens, even those with like construction. Very well done and thanks for sharing.

#1481787 - 06/11/07 Re: Huge .264 Bullet Test with lots of pics [Re: pointer]  
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must be the most efficient combination or blend of velocity and weight for the 100 tsx compared to the others.

#1481797 - 06/11/07 Re: Huge .264 Bullet Test with lots of pics [Re: Partagas]  
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or that they lost their petals and have less surface and resistance to penetration smirk

#1481812 - 06/11/07 Re: Huge .264 Bullet Test with lots of pics [Re: BCSteve]  
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Let me know when you are doing similar test on 284 and 308 diameters. I will donate some bullets.

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#1481862 - 06/12/07 Re: Huge .264 Bullet Test with lots of pics [Re: Crappie_Killer]  
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BCSteve, thank you very much for the great work you did and sharing the results with us. I am very impressed especially with the penetration of the lighter bullets like the 125 grs. Nosler Partition and 129 grs. Hornady Interlock. Fantastic! Other winners seem to be the 140 grs. Lapua Naturalis in the segment of monometallic bullets (and of course the 130 grs. TSX!) and the 156 grs. Lapua Mega and the 150 grs. Hornady RN in the field of common cup and core bullets... the rate of penetration and bullet weight retention makes them really interesting for hunting bigger than whitetail game....... once again, thanks a lot for sharing that excellent information!

cheers,
Gerry

p.s.: do you know by heart the average velocity of the bullets you tested? Could be another great information......

#1481911 - 06/12/07 Re: Huge .264 Bullet Test with lots of pics [Re: enigma]  
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Them TSX boolits look just like they oughta, classic.

I'm getting ready to put together a 264 winnie and had been wanting to go with a 125 Partition or that 120 TSX for a deer killer, don't think I'd go wrong with either.

Thanks for the "work" you put into this!!


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#1481996 - 06/12/07 Re: Huge .264 Bullet Test with lots of pics [Re: muleshoe]  
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Thanks for the report!

Sure glad I just picked up some 125 Partitions for the .260 as those 125 NP's look fabulous!


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#1482178 - 06/12/07 Re: Huge .264 Bullet Test with lots of pics [Re: enigma]  
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Originally Posted by enigma

p.s.: do you know by heart the average velocity of the bullets you tested? Could be another great information......


I had all the loads used and approximate velocity for all of them but I can't find that stupid piece of paper. I can't remember the numbers but they were loaded to duplicate impact velocity of modern loads at 100yds for the 6.5x55 and .260Rem and about 200yds with the .264 Win Mag and 6.5-284. Take a look at the max velocity for the bullet weight that you're intested in and take off about 100-150fps, that should be the impact velocity of my test.

**Found the velocities. Added to the bottom of the original post**

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#1482215 - 06/12/07 Re: Huge .264 Bullet Test with lots of pics [Re: BCSteve]  
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Awesome job Steve.Thanks for taking the time to post your results.

#1482222 - 06/12/07 Re: Huge .264 Bullet Test with lots of pics [Re: 7 STW]  
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It pains me to say it being a province away but those wildcat bullets sure suck from looking at the pictures.

#1482280 - 06/12/07 Re: Huge .264 Bullet Test with lots of pics [Re: BCSteve]  
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thank's a lot Steve, very well done!

#1482305 - 06/12/07 Re: Huge .264 Bullet Test with lots of pics [Re: enigma]  
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Thanks for posting that. Very interesting.


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#1482320 - 06/12/07 Re: Huge .264 Bullet Test with lots of pics [Re: Delta Hunter]  
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Steve,

Thanks for a great post!

#1482334 - 06/12/07 Re: Huge .264 Bullet Test with lots of pics [Re: mdatlanta]  
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That 140Gr Lapua Naturalist looks like it would put the hurting on some game.


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#1482341 - 06/12/07 Re: Huge .264 Bullet Test with lots of pics [Re: Delta Hunter]  
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Another thank you for sharing and all the hard work you put in. Always nice to see actual confirmation of beliefs held about my .260!!!

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