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Looks like for penetration and uniform expansion, the 130gr. TSX comes out on top! Thanks so much for sharing.
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I have looked at this over and over again. It sure reinforced my low opinion regards folks that shoot 22 caliber sierra match kings at WT deer, it reinforced my belief in the Nosler partition bullets, and the TSX bullets simply make a lot of sense to me now, this year I am using 100 grain TSX bullets spun up to about 3000 fps. Thanks once again for sharing your study with us.
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Thanks guys, glad you liked it.
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This topic lived for quite a while and now I thought it might be a place to note that Hornady is going to discontinue the 160 gr. .264" round nose 2640 bullet. Maybe you like it and maybe you don't, but if you do, you might want to get some while you can find it.
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Good idea Hobie.
BC Steve: Any similar test comparing that data above, to say a 30-06 w/a few loads in same media?
I recall Finn Aaggard years back did articles on 6.5x55 as well as 338/06, and IIRC, he did penetration test, etc. and compared them to say an '06 w/a few common bullets like 180 CL, PT, and 200 PT.
It sure would be nice if all mfg. of bullets/ammo elected to do standardized test in a bullet medium to show various data on terminal performance, but many I am sure would 'opt out' for fear of showing 'bullet failure.'
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This topic lived for quite a while and now I thought it might be a place to note that Hornady is going to discontinue the 160 gr. .264" round nose 2640 bullet. Maybe you like it and maybe you don't, but if you do, you might want to get some while you can find it. still on their online catalog : http://www.hornady.com/store/6.5mm-.264-160-gr-RN/
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130gr TSX is the champ! should provide the perfect blend of penetration and expansion(should waaay overpenetrate, something i like) in all .264" cartridges. I have shot one doe whitetail with it in a 6.5X55 so surely aint no test but did exactly what i expected......
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I'd have to agree and very accurate in my 264..so far killed two deer with it this year.There's been alot of discussion here lately about X bullets,how they penetrate at close and long range.The 5x4 I killed at almost 200yds showed exactly the same damage as the doe I shot at 55yds. My load was 73grs/H570 130 TSX at a clocked vel of 3210...I think anyone shootin a 6.5 bore of any kind should try em...they work SUPER IMO !!!
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I would like to see the same test ran at 264 Win Mag velocities!!! I would also like to see the strait line performance? (how far off the bullet veered?)
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130gr TSX is the champ! should provide the perfect blend of penetration and expansion(should waaay overpenetrate, something i like) in all .264" cartridges. I have shot one doe whitetail with it in a 6.5X55 so surely aint no test but did exactly what i expected...... The TSX is a total BC dog and would hinder any flat long range enthusiast. Using a TSX in a 6.5 is like throwing water on a fire.
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You better be afraid of a ghost!!
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BC is NOT the holy grail of a hunting bullet..this is one of the most misconceived notions I know of Ok woody, look at this way. I can take a 260 Rem shooting a 130 Swift S2 .571 BC at 2,900 mv. Burning 45 grains of powder in the 260, at 400 yards, I will be equal to a 264 Win Mag shooting a 130 TSX .365 BC at 3,300 mv burning 70 grains of powder.(with your load at 3,210, the 260 will be equal to your 264 at 300 yards, at 350 it starts to pass it) At 450 yards the 260 Rem shooting the higher BC Swift bullet overtakes the 264 Win Mag shooting the low BC 130 TSX. 260 Rem 450 yard velocity is 2,217264 Win Mag 450 yard velocity is 2,186The 264 win mag starts out 400 fps faster with far more recoil than the 260 Rem yet at 450 yards has less speed or IMPACT velocity. On that note, For proven fact, the X bullet needs impact velocity to work correctly on big game otherwise your results could be erratic. I qualified my statement with this, would hinder any flat long range enthusiast.
Now maybe you're not a flat long range enthusiast. If not and you like Barns bullets, you might as well shoot a 45-70. The 6.5 IS a long range caliber and to shoot a low BC bullet in it is to defeat it's purpose. (Although with heavy long 155's and 160's it can double as a great elk bullet in the thick.)
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+1....I tested that 130gr SSII in my light .260 and found that the .571 G1 BC was a tad low....that bullet "thumps" at long range and also shoots sub moa all the way out to 800.
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in my light .260 and found that the .571 G1 BC was a tad low. Yes, scenarshooter, my findings as well. That S2 turns the 260 into an beast. Good thing woody is shooting a 264 win mag, he needs it to keep up with your 260 Rem. Wow if that's the case must be alot of misinformed dudes hangin round these parts Only the Barnyheads Woody, only the Barneyheads.
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Damn I was really hoping part 2 was out.
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Good info guys but at average HONEST killing ranges and field testing on actual game they still kill stuff quite dead.I think you already know lots of Barnesheads here on the Fire will back me up from ACTUAL hunting experiences. Many will also say that X boolits aren't necessary which is a very true statement IMO.So gents I don't dispute your data only the assumption they stink !!
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Good info guys but at average HONEST killing ranges and field testing on actual game they still kill stuff quite dead. And a honest cup and core bullet will do the same thing as a Barnes will. So what is a DISHONEST killing range?
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Wow! The 100 and 130 Barnes products look like the way to go!
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What barrel length and powder are you guys using to get 2900?
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