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This was the lead editorial in the Wall Street Journal this morning:

What an enormous abdication. The Supreme Court ducked its first Second Amendment case in a decade on Monday, and the only plausible explanation is that Chief Justice John Roberts wanted to avoid becoming a target of vengeful Senate Democrats.

In an unsigned per curiam opinion, the Chief joined the four liberals and a (conflicted) Justice Brett Kavanaugh in declaring moot a challenge to New York City’s onerous gun regulation (New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. City of New York). At issue is a New York City rule that prevents residents with gun licenses from transporting their guns from their city homes to shooting ranges and homes outside the city. Obtaining even a “premises” license requires a $431 fee and police investigation into an applicant’s mental health, criminal history and moral character. It can take six months.

After the High Court accepted the case, the city revised its ban to let the plaintiffs tote their guns (locked and unloaded) “directly” between residences and other permitted destinations. The state Legislature passed a similar law. Case moot, New York politicians declared.

Rhode Island Senator Sheldon Whitehouse and four other Democrats also weighed in with an amicus brief threatening the Justices if they didn’t follow their orders to drop the case. “The Supreme Court is not well,” they wrote. “Perhaps the Court can heal itself before the public demands it be ‘restructured in order to reduce the influence of politics.’”


The majority buckled and ignored previous rulings to do it. As Justice Alito writes, the Court’s precedents hold that “a case ‘becomes moot only when it is impossible for a court to grant any effectual relief whatever to the prevailing party.’” Plaintiffs want to transport their firearms without worrying about getting arrested if they stop somewhere along the way. The city even admitted in oral arguments that it’s unclear whether this is allowed. Justice Alito says this and more make the rule’s violation of the Second Amendment “not a close call.”

On the mootness point, Justice Alito also pokes his colleagues with this hypothetical: “A State enacts a law providing that any woman wishing to obtain an abortion must submit certification from five doctors that the procedure is medically necessary. After a woman sues, claiming that any requirement of physician certification is unconstitutional, the State replaces its old law with a new one requiring certification by three physicians. Would the court be required to dismiss the woman’s suit?” You know the answer.

Justice Kavanaugh’s role here is curious because, while he joined the majority on mootness, he wrote a concurrence agreeing with the dissent on the Second Amendment merits. This looks to us as if he is trying to protect the Chief Justice from being the fifth vote, and the sole “conservative,” providing a liberal victory while making clear he’s still a solid vote himself for gun rights. The phrase for this is too clever by half.

Justice Kavanaugh may agree with the Chief that the Court needs to avoid political controversies, especially with Democrats threatening to pack the Court if they win the White House and Senate in November. But the Court’s timidity on gun rights amid Senate threats means that liberal and media intimidation will escalate. The Court hasn’t taken a Second Amendment case in a decade, even as cities and states erode its landmark Heller decision bit by bit. The Court is sending a signal that the Second Amendment is the exception in the Bill of Rights, a second-class freedom.

“By incorrectly dismissing this case as moot, the Court permits our docket to be manipulated in a way that should not be countenanced,” Justice Alito warns. He’s right but too polite.

The Chief Justice is carving out a reputation as a highly political Justice whose views on the law can be coerced with threats to the Court’s “independence.” The danger for the Court is that, in bending to these threats, the Chief is compromising the very independence he claims to want to protect.


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Roberts is useless and Kavanaugh is suffering from PTSD.

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what a disappointment Roberts has been.....he jumped the fence early in his SC career.....

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Old Georgie Boy Bush really F-ed up when he appointed Roberts to the SCOTUS didn't he. Or he knew exactly what he was doing.

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Roberts needs to grow a pair of balls. Maybe RBG could donate hers to him once she achieves room temperature and doesn't need 'em any more!
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Hotrod Lincoln: I second your suggestion!
Sad what some of these "Supremes" turn into once "seated".
Shameful as well.
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Somebody has something on Roberts.


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Roberts is compromised..

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Somebody has something on Roberts.

This has been obvious for some time. I’m sure Trump is not the only one spied on by the FBI. Hasbeen


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“Perhaps the court can heal itself before the public demands it be restructured in order to reduce political influence.” — Rhode Island’s D senator.

What a joke — just deluded or another stupid, incompetent, northeast, echo-chamber Democrat. The D’s don’t breathe without a political motive and influencing.

It’s a day of PC, weasily, cooked-noodle politicians and judges.

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Wasn't Georgie Boys first or last mistake!

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Wasn't Georgie Boys first or last mistake!

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Originally Posted by Sako76
Wasn't Georgie Boys first or last mistake!


You can say that again.


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Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
Somebody has something on Roberts.


Wasn't there a rumor floating around about a flaky adoption of a kid or two?
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Did you really expect anything better from him?

They have something on the man.

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Just looked it up- - - - -Roberts and his wife adopted two kids from "Latin America"- - - - -except they were both blond, fair-skinned children born in Ireland. That type of private adoption is illegal in Ireland, and transporting the kids out of country by both birth mothers was the adoption equivalent of money laundering. Apparently his last-minute swing vote on Obamacare was the result of blackmail by Obozo, and some of his other contriversial votes are suspected to be the result of similar pressure being exerted on him. Nothing like the dummycraps having an ace in the hole on manipulating the court!
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None of our First or Second Ammendment rights will be restored until the Supreme Court decides. Roberts does appear to be compromised. Disappointed in Kavanaugh. Expected better from him. I hope he has a plan and is not shirking his duty. We need these constitutional violations decided. Clinton, Bush and the magic knee grow are all huge disappointments.

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