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Only have one 28 right now. AyA Matador. It's my go to gun!

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I only have one it's a Ruger Red label. Got it for a song at a shop in Redding Ca. It was a trade in from a guy that used it as his skeet gun and it was worn out. Took a chance that Ruger would work on it.

When I got it the lever at closed was at 6:45 and considerable play in the action and the rib rattled worse than any other Ruger and they're all bad.

I called Ruger customer service and asked the nice lady if they would give me an estimate for repairs if I sent it in. She said sure thing and emailed a shipping label and would call me back after they got the gun.

A couple of weeks later the rep from Ruger called and asked me if I would talk to the tech working on the gun. Sure thing I replied but had a sinking feeling the gun was toast. The service tech sounded like a nice young girl and said work was progressing well on the gun and chided me for complaining about the rib but she would fix it.

I thanked her and asked to direct me back to the cust service gal. Kinda freaked out because I wanted an estimate first before approving the work. Jaw dropped when she told me no charge and they were happy to do it. I reminded her that I bought it used and worn out and would compensate them for the work and parts. She wasn't having any of it.

Happy Ruger customer, must be why I have so many. Sorry so long winded here it is with completely new internals.

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Originally Posted by JLimbo
I only have one it's a Ruger Red label. Got it for a song at a shop in Redding Ca. It was a trade in from a guy that used it as his skeet gun and it was worn out. Took a chance that Ruger would work on it.

When I got it the lever at closed was at 6:45 and considerable play in the action and the rib rattled worse than any other Ruger and they're all bad.

I called Ruger customer service and asked the nice lady if they would give me an estimate for repairs if I sent it in. She said sure thing and emailed a shipping label and would call me back after they got the gun.

A couple of weeks later the rep from Ruger called and asked me if I would talk to the tech working on the gun. Sure thing I replied but had a sinking feeling the gun was toast. The service tech sounded like a nice young girl and said work was progressing well on the gun and chided me for complaining about the rib but she would fix it.

I thanked her and asked to direct me back to the cust service gal. Kinda freaked out because I wanted an estimate first before approving the work. Jaw dropped when she told me no charge and they were happy to do it. I reminded her that I bought it used and worn out and would compensate them for the work and parts. She wasn't having any of it.

Happy Ruger customer, must be why I have so many. Sorry so long winded here it is with completely new internals.

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Hard to not like a company that’s takes good care of its customers.

Thanks for sharing. Nice shotgun.

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Remington 1100 Sporting Clays Model. It’s deadly on dove and quail.

If I was to ever buy another 28 ga automatic, it would definitely be the Benelli Ultralight.


Exactly my thought.


The Benelli would be nice, but a Remington 1100 is still an 1100,. For a cheaper 28, I like my Turkish Mossberg. Heavy trigger, which can be fixed, but nice, light, properly-sized gun. A few steps or maybe half the track ahead of an 1100 in my opinion. I think I paid less than $500 for mine, which is an added bonus

Hunting bud got a 28 ga. Turkish “Benelli” and likes it. Forget what name brand they stamped on it. Light, handy gun. Deadly on doves, but he’s a pretty good shot. Gun does its part.

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I think the Mossberg is closer to a Beretta in design. Both Weatherby and Mossberg have marketed them under the SA designation

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Perazzi MX28B, 30” bbls, choked .010”/.018”, POW grip, slight forward bias weight distribution. Love the thing, weighs 6# on the nose.


If my recollection is correct, that was Dick Cheney's favorite quail gun too.


That’s correct, except that his was an SCO. About $40k.



And if I remember correctly, the bottom barrel was choked Improved Lawyer.

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I think that ruger red label is just what I am look for haha. That is really a beautiful shotgun.

And speaks a lot for ruger.

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Originally Posted by DesertMuleDeer
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Remington 1100 Sporting Clays Model. It’s deadly on dove and quail.

If I was to ever buy another 28 ga automatic, it would definitely be the Benelli Ultralight.


Exactly my thought.


The Benelli would be nice, but a Remington 1100 is still an 1100,. For a cheaper 28, I like my Turkish Mossberg. Heavy trigger, which can be fixed, but nice, light, properly-sized gun. A few steps or maybe half the track ahead of an 1100 in my opinion. I think I paid less than $500 for mine, which is an added bonus


Never have had an 1100 and I like their looks, but in my dotage have become fairly dogmatic about the gauges and their approximate weights and scale for game guns. 6 1/2 lbs for a 28 is at least 3/4 lbs too heavy and arguably a whole lb or more.

A 28 SA doesn’t need a recoil mitigating gas system. In the game fields, IMO, a gas-operated 28 is an anachronism. Fo me, same goes for the 20 mostly.

Clay target competitions are a different story.

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Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd
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Remington 1100 Sporting Clays Model. It’s deadly on dove and quail.

If I was to ever buy another 28 ga automatic, it would definitely be the Benelli Ultralight.


Exactly my thought.


The Benelli would be nice, but a Remington 1100 is still an 1100,. For a cheaper 28, I like my Turkish Mossberg. Heavy trigger, which can be fixed, but nice, light, properly-sized gun. A few steps or maybe half the track ahead of an 1100 in my opinion. I think I paid less than $500 for mine, which is an added bonus


Never have had an 1100 and I like their looks, but in my dotage have become fairly dogmatic about the gauges and their approximate weights and scale for game guns. 6 1/2 lbs for a 28 is at least 3/4 lbs too heavy and arguably a whole lb or more.

A 28 SA doesn’t need a recoil mitigating gas system. In the game fields, IMO, a gas-operated 28 is an anachronism. Fo me, same goes for the 20 mostly.

Clay target competitions are a different story.

I like my 28 ga. 1100. It handles well, kills above its weight class...

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Don’t tempt me. 🙂 As I said I like their looks.

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DF, I’m a lefty and learned to not buy “left hand” shotguns because I’m a trader and a re-seller. So I pay attention to safeties on SA’s and if they are the plunger type, they must be fairly easily reversible.

Remingtons were until I think maybe 15 years ago. Now you have replace them with an aftermarket safety — at least that’s the case with the 1100’s.

I’m sure our litigious culture has a lot to do with it but Benelli still makes it easy-peasy. I applaud them for that among a lot of other things.

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George, Benelli is a great design, hard to beat.

I just don't have one in 28 ga. I do have a 12 ga....

Those who have them really seem to like them, me included.

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The 28 G. does not get the respect it deserves. It is hard hitting often very light, and fast.

I have several , Including a Merkel , Al 48 Deluxe with a straight stock, simliar to one posted earlier , couple older Berettas . The Berettas trigger

guard jams my hand when firing. A couple Berettas in 20 G. do this also..

Pic is a Merkel 280 EL in a true 28 G. frame. I try to be careful dragging it through the brush Grouse hunting. I will use it and enjoy . My heirs can deal

with any history the scatter gun accumulates.

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Very nice double gun there, cisco.

I like it. Bet it shoots as good as it looks.

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Originally Posted by battue
One shooting TSS shot, because it turns it into LW 12Gauge.....


That's what I shot a gobbler with 28 ga 1 3/8 9s Apex TSS. They weren't working well, so had to do a 200 yard sneak across open pasture to get a long shot, but it worked. It was far enough my brother thought I was nuts, but he's dead!

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How on earth do you get 1 3/8 oz in a 28 gauge shell?

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Originally Posted by GF1
How on earth do you get 1 3/8 oz in a 28 gauge shell?


It's tungsten super shot, it's about 70% heavier than lead if I remember correctly. You shoot 9's on turkeys, they weigh almost the same as lead 5's except there's a lot more of them! A 2 oz load of lead 5's has 340 pellets, a 28 ga load of 9's TSS has I think almost 500. They weigh the same so penetration and energy are pretty much identical. Unfortunately they aren't cheap, but you don't fire several hundred a year at gobblers.

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By the way, I currently hunt mostly with a Ugartechea 28 sxs, and have another Beretta A400 28 ga.

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Originally Posted by jstevens
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How on earth do you get 1 3/8 oz in a 28 gauge shell?


It's tungsten super shot, it's about 70% heavier than lead if I remember correctly. You shoot 9's on turkeys, they weigh almost the same as lead 5's except there's a lot more of them! A 2 oz load of lead 5's has 340 pellets, a 28 ga load of 9's TSS has I think almost 500. They weigh the same so penetration and energy are pretty much identical. Unfortunately they aren't cheap, but you don't fire several hundred a year at gobblers.

Can you load TSS rounds, or do you have to buy'em?

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
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How on earth do you get 1 3/8 oz in a 28 gauge shell?


It's tungsten super shot, it's about 70% heavier than lead if I remember correctly. You shoot 9's on turkeys, they weigh almost the same as lead 5's except there's a lot more of them! A 2 oz load of lead 5's has 340 pellets, a 28 ga load of 9's TSS has I think almost 500. They weigh the same so penetration and energy are pretty much identical. Unfortunately they aren't cheap, but you don't fire several hundred a year at gobblers.

Can you load TSS rounds, or do you have to buy'em?

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You can load them, but it doesn't save much money. the 28's are about 7 bucks a pop, but the shot costs $220 for 5 pounds. You have about $4 a round just in shot, no wads, no powder, no primers, and assuming you never mess up one. I shot a 24 pound gobbler with the 28 ga and factory full barrel at exactly 80 yards. I know it sounds nuts, but keep in mine the energy per pellet is the same as a 5 and there are 150 more pellets than a 2 oz load of 5 lead.

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Have you broken a tooth yet, biting down on one of those small, very hard pieces of shot...?

That would be my concern, using TSS on game that I'm going to eat.

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